Gorilla glue - is it still made?

[Vito Kuhn]

Apparently unlike you, I answer to a higher power. God knows the truth, and that is all that matters to me.

VK

[WillR]

Then perhaps you should commune with him immediately -- and forsake this place.

[Andy Dingley]

You posted an outright lie whilst offering safety advice. Maybe you didn't know this and you posted from sheer ignorance. Which is almost as bad.

Seems a little odd that you've only ever made two contributions; one to impose moderation and one to post misleading safety advice.

I was sincere - I always try to be, which is why I was so bluntly rude to you when you were pushing moderation on us.

Now though I see you posting this:

Offensively patronising and misleading. It's still the decent thing to do to be welcoming to new posters, but I do wonder just how valuable your contributions would be.

[J. Clarke]

If you aren't sufficiently interested in the content to at least look at most of the threads then why are you here?

[LRod]

No offense taken, Doug, however, I sort of doubt that I ever came right out and said that, for a variety of reasons. For example, people like Vito become downright abusive when one does say that; even calmer and more rational but still prosletyzing x-tians get quite agitated when one does say that; mainstream people who prefer to keep their religion a private matter (as it should be, in my opinion) get a little uncomfortable when one does say that.

As a matter of general practice I have a long and fairly public record of not discussing my religion (if any) in a woodworking forum for what I consider the obvious two reasons: it's not on topic, and it's no one's friggin' business.

All of that said, I pride myself on my morality and ethics which are pretty generally in line with those of christianity (as well as most major religions), so the insult would not be from you, Doug, for having possibly misinterpreted something I may have said, but from Vito for not only being judgemental but for making assumptions about someone whom he has never met nor exchanged discourse with.

Anyway, Vito can piss off as far as I'm concerned. Doug, let's you and I go beat up on Toller some more.

[Vito Kuhn]

In other words, you're NOT a practicing Christian. I figured as much.

I've got news for you, my brother. We're all Christians, even though unfortunately not all of us are "practicing Christians". There is only one God, and he is in three parts (The Father, Son and Holy Spirit) and we are all his children.

VK

[Dave Hinz]

I don't see him saying that, I see him saying it's not relevant here. Nor is my attendance record, by the way. Nor is yours.

What is your actual goal in being here, Vito? Be specific. What do you hope to accomplish? What wisdom can you offer us? Why should we bother with you?

[Doug Miller]

How, and why, this community believes that doing so would harm this group has already been explained to you - thoroughly - and I will not rehash that explanation here. It comes as no surprise to me that you are paying no more attention now than you did then.

Perhaps you could climb down off your high horse long enough to realize that

*all* of us - yourself included - need some nurturing in our personal relationships with God. "For all men have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God." Ever read that before?

And perhaps you could pull your head out of your rectum far enough to realize that the real issue here is *your* behavior and *your* statements.

-- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt. And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?

[Vito Kuhn]

I joined this thread to answer a question. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think my answer was helpful. Then I shared a health disclaimer and I was harped on like a blue whale.

Nobody is forcing you to do that. You obviously have a strong dislike for me, which is not mutual. There probably isn't anything I could say or do that would change your opinion of me.

I said what I had to say about Gorilla Glue and acetone. I'll leave it at that. Marco is capable of coming to his own conclusion, I'm sure.

VK

VK

[Doug Miller]

ROFL... but that's almost like fishing in a barrel, isn't it?

-- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt. And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?

[Dave Hinz]

Your answer was unhelpful, it was spreading your guess as if it was fact. That guess is demonstrably false. Giving out false health information on the Internet is, while not unique, certainly not something to be applauded.

Because you're wrong.

Maybe if you'd contribute signal rather than noise...

If that's the best you can do, I guess that answers my question.

[Doug Miller]

You didn't "share a health disclaimer", Vito, you repeated what amounts to an urban legend.

Maybe not. If you're interested in changing people's opinions of you, though, here are a few suggested starting points:

- apologize for your earlier attempts to force new groups on a community that didn't want them

- admit that you were wrong to do so, and stop trying to justify it

- apologize for ignoring the massive protests that arose at the time

- admit that you posted false, alarmist ravings

- stop trying to defend having done so under the guise of "sharing a health disclaimer"

- don't post until you have something woodworking-related to say

- invest yourself in developing a more humble and contrite spirit

And Dave, and I, and others, have said what we had to say about you.

-- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt. And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?

[10x]

Would that then be "Vito and the Salutations"?

Guess I'm giving away my age...

Joe

aka10x

[J. Clarke]

Sez you. Prove it.

[J. Clarke]

Have you ever made anything out of wood? Anything at all?

[Paul Kierstead]

He is a troll.

I don't know if he is a really really good troll and is doing it on purpose or just one of those people who were born to be a major pain in the ass and doesn't even realize it (probably has a persecution complex), but he is a troll nonetheless; he has all the signs; only posts inflammatory material and obviously leaves and breathes for the fuss.

PK

[Vito Kuhn]

I hate trolls and flamers more than anyone I've ever spoken to. You don't know me from a hole in the wall. You're quick to discredit anyone who has a different opinion than the mainstream in this forum as a troll, but life is not that simple. You need to have a look at your conscience, and figure out what drives you to say such malicious things about decent people. God above is watching, and I don't think he is very pleased with your conduct.

VK

[WillR]

With any luck God will strike the worst offender with lightning.

I expect that Paul will live a long and fruitful life.

Good night!

[Paul Kierstead]

I am quick to discredit anyone whose only contributions create great strife. I don't care what their opinion is. You mistake me for someone who gives a shit about what you believe. I care about what you do; what think is your business.

Ah, well then, the feeling is mutual (*)

PK

(*) Not true of course, it was just a clever thing to say. God's opinion of me is irrelevant, it is you were are speaking of. What is your excuse for your *actions*?

[Vito Kuhn]

If you bothered to look, you would see that I was a contributor to this forum before I had my accident. I came very close to death, and I'm confined to a wheelchair now. After you experience something like that, you change BIG TIME. I hope you never have to go through what I went through.

Of course, you don't give squat about my life or my story, and I don't expect you to. I just wanted to point out that I did used to post here at one time, and I have made contributions here in the past, contrary to what others are saying about me.

VK