Did you join the revolution?

So very true. This year, especially

I'm not sure Jefferson used very good wording in this case. I know he is k nown for writing some good things back in his day. But not this. At the t ime he was around, the USA had just fought a fairly bloody and deadly "revo lution" with England for its independence. Hundreds of thousands of people died on both sides in that revolution. To compare voting to hundreds of t housands of dead people is foolish. I'm pretty sure if someone had stuck a flintlock pistol into his mouth and said "you vote and I blow your head of f". He would have said "I'll skip voting".

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?I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical. Unsuccesful rebellions indeed generally establish the incroachments on the rights of the people which have produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions, as not to discourage them too much. It is a medecine necessary for the sound health of government.?

Thomas Jefferson, Letters of Thomas Jefferson

Read a bit of history, you will see your estimates of causality count are a bit off.

It's pointless, the choice is to keep the current scoundrel or replace it with a different scoundrel. If there was an option "shoot all candidates for this office" I suspect that we would have much better voter turnout.

Whenever possible. Voted early this year and it was 45 minutes from entering the line (just outside the door) to exiting the building.

We should have "none of the above" as a choice. If "none of the above" gets a plurality of the votes, the candidates on the ballot are disqualified and we have another election with a new slate of candidates.

I agree completely. Of course it would probably take a number of election cycles for the various parties to figure out that the jig was up.

Been saying this for years. All I ever hear is 'write someone in'. I don't believe that sends the same message. So I write in 'none of the above'. I want to vote, not take a multiple choice test.

If you don't like any of the above scoundrels, then maybe it's time to change the method. Because 'it's the way it's always been done' doesn't mean it's the most effective way anymore.

As in any first past the post system, the incumbents have everything to gain from preventing change in a zero-sum game: all they need to do is create artificial splits in the opposition, or find a polarising issue, and they win. Strategies such as NOTA, or proportional voting, change the rules so that platforms need some degree of substance, not just emotion- based blather. The sum of the game is fluid, and not nearly so easy to control.

At least Trump is delivering on his promises. And he would not look half bad if the biased media would quit taking his comments out of context. Fortunately the mature population that votes saw through the media.

It's scary to think about the number who can't.

Its amazing how many folks voted against their best interest on the 6th. T he vote was based on two things, promises, that have been made before and n ot kept and an aversion to Trump. What was forgotten is what has produced the economy we have today. Instead they opted to return to the policies th at led to eight years of almost no growth.

This country was founded on the premises of an "informed" electorate. It w ould be nice if we had one.

Unfortunately, the "mature population that votes" must exceed the morons that vote, plus the dead, illegals, non-voters and non-existent etc,etc.

The trick the anti-American Dims face is to not let their moron voters plus fake votes, exceed the number of registered voters. This is why they pay people each time they register to vote. They really don't care if they vote or not, they will vote for them. Mail in ballots are also a major source of Dimwit voter fraud.

Republicans lost the house Tuesday. Wednesday there were no riots, no protests, no videos of large groups of voters sobbing uncontrollably, no grief counselors at universities, no celebrities threatening to move to Canada, no property destroyed, no one threatened, everyone went back to work...

"This is what a civilization looks like as it starts to fall":

Yeah, I recall the millennials reactions to Clinton loosing the election. They buy into the media hook, line, and sinker.