Ok, I can see a lot of corn-fusion here. Although the seller isn't a genius at
explaining that the tote and knob (those pieces of wood) are painted black, he's
almost certainly correct in the description. That is, planes of the apparent
variety pictured (type 18, 1946-47) did indeed have hardwood knob/tote painted
This picture looks like painted wood:
Secondly, the $10 is not the reserve, but the opening bid. Opening bids really
don't mean squat on ebay, except when they're stupidly high.
Hope that clears things up a bit.
Oh yeah. I'm a plane guy. ;)
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It's not a $10 reserve. It's a start price and has nothing to
do with the reserve price he has set. The reserve is likely
$40 or $50. And it's not a real beauty, at least not to me,
though it's hard to tell from his bad pictures. Something
about it feels too "new". Those knobs may be plastic.
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I just contacted the seller off-line about his tools after checking his
ratings on eBay, standard disclaimer. He has NO negatives and better
than 600 positives. He seeems to be a helpful and reasonable sort. He
has a mild interest in tools although his main interests are in trains
and other toys. Since he says that the handles are "painted", I suspect
that they are, plastic is pretty obvious, look at any Corsair. I have
some "old" Stanleys with painted knobs and totes. My older ones don't.
Write him and ask if you are curious, his e-mail is therailfence at dcr
Dave in Fairfax
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Around here, those puppies are rare and expensive. I had to look for
ages just to find one that was cracked and welded, and I had to pay
quite a bit for it too.
BTW, thanks to you and O'Deen for the ebay lesson.
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This seller is one whose intelligence I'd be more inclined to question:
The description doesn't suck completely, and the seller seems to know he has a
fairly desirable plane for sale, but those pictures are a friggin JOKE, and the
initial asking price is just ridiculous.
Patrick Olguin (O'Deen) wrote:
Someone did an analysis once of the prices on Ebay auctions, and I believe
they found that the auctions that generated the highest prices were ones
that had an initial bid of $1. I guess it's sort of like test driving a car,
once you do you have an emotional attachment. If you are winning for a low
price for a few days, you start to think of the item as "yours", then you
are willing to bid high at the end of the auction in the excitement. So, the
seller is probably doing the smart thing from his point of view.
I'm curious; why do you think he is an idiot?
I don't buy or sell on Ebay but I look at the auctions once in a while
just to convince myself I'm not missing much. I happened to look
around a bit yesterday and saw a transitional Stanley described as
being in perfect user condition or something to that effect. The
plane had no blade, chip breaker, or lever cap. But it's no worse
than some of the "knowledgable" dealers out there. One particular
dealer recently sold two "sets" of augur bits touted for the rarity of
finding intact sets in good shape. It was clear from the photograph
that the "sets" were mixed styles. Caveat emptor indeed.
"Both wood pieces are painted black."
Yeah. Black as in *plastic*.
Unless I'm the idiot and someone who knows more about these than I do can
tell me that they were manufactured with black lacquered wooden handles in
the '70s or something.
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The handle and tote on my Stanley #7 are black lacquered wood. It's
older than a 70s model but nobody would have used plastic handles in
the 70s; that particular improvement is much more recent.
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Yeah, I don't think the handles on that particular plane are plastic; the plane
doesn't look new enough. If you inspect the third picture close enough the
tote looks wood to me. Of course the front knob could be a plastic replacement.
At some point Stanley quit using Rosewood for the knobs and totes and
substituted Beech instead. I don't know why they felt the need to cover up the
grain with that dark stain (or paint), but I think it looks like hell. That's
another thing I look for when scrutinizing a plane; if it doesn't have Rosewood
knobs, I look elsewhere.
Ken Muldrew wrote:
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 23:27:23 -0400, Silvan wrote:
Just curious, did you leave positive feedback for the sellers in the
auctions that you won? Leaving your feedback first would probably remind
them to reciprocate. I usually don't check to see if the seller has left
feedback before I leave mine. If all is OK, I just do it. Most of the time
I get the feedback one way or another.
Did those sellers have big feedback numbers, or were they newbies? If the
seller isn't experienced, they may forget, not understand the feedback
system, or just not understand how important it is. A friendly e-mail can
do wonders here. I usually send an e-mail when the item arrives and I've
had a chance to check it out. That's a pretty good time to bring up
Remember, you're really dealing with individuals, not eBay.
Hard to top all this good advice,only thing I can add is local antique
Stop in a few,some are over priced while others keep those nasty old
tools away from their fine old furniture and are glad to get rid of
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