Bosch Reaxx Table Saw

And you're back to work in 5 minutes, instead of heading out for a new blade. :-)

Or headed to the ER.

You know this is "saw-stop" alternative that prevents damage to human flesh, right?

Only if you don't have but the one blade. LOL

I cringe at the thought of tripping mthe break on my Forrest Dado King set.

It will be interesting to see of SawStop has a position on the blade continuing to spin after dropping vs. their set up.

Yea. I was thinking of the alternative to no saw-stop at all.

I don't care if it spins as long as it works and does not bite me. Competition is a good thing.

nice, but will it stand up in court. Seems like it's infringing on the use of the sensing technology, which is really a gfci test.

The lowering is different than saw stop, so I don't see that as a risk.

Again, this is job site, not a cabinet saw.

The fat lady hasn't taken the stage.

Exactly. As long as there is competition. Gass tried to change that, though. I don't think it matters that much anymore, though. The patents will expire in a few years (2019, IIRC).

No, it's significantly different. A least SawStop measures capacitance, not leakage. The difference might not be obvious to you but it's significant enough.

IIRC (it's been a while since I read the patents) the patents claim a blade that retracts when triggered. It doesn't matter how it retracts.

It's still a measure of Gass' patents. If nothing else, he's a good patent lawyer. We'll see if Bosch has better. I'm really surprised Bosch challenged them now.

Hell Yeah.

But we not being experts about this technology it would be a good thing to hear their take. They might divulge something we might overlook. And it would be up to us to determine if it was worth hearing. Either way I think, if I were in the market, that I would want to hear reasoning for details from both sides.

You are rehashing what is done and cannot be changed. Would you not really like to see and hear explanations of the differences by both parties IF you were in the market. Would you use choice reasoning from what you were impressed by, or hearing from either brand that it works.

Could you actually prove that comment, or speculation? Certainly SawStop would be on to them and it would be in the news already.

Lowering? The SawStop lowers the blade during breaking too and pretty much with the same principal of the reloading of the arbor after a trigger.

Actually she has. The saw is on the market, that is all it had to do. This has been no secret and litigation would have stopped sales until settled. That may have happened but the end result is that you can now buy this feature on both brands.

Wait, I'm confused. The Bosch doesn't damage the blade, right? So you flip the trigger over and you're back to work.

Maybe he pissed them off. He seems good at pissing people off.

Strictly from a safety point of view. Technically the SS has the drop down as an additional line of defense. Just as a possible example, either saw could possibly jam from a build up of debris and the blade might not drop. Then the SS might be the better setup with redundant safety.

On 09/15/2015 6:02 PM, Leon wrote: ...

Was a sidebar article in FWW a few months ago -- most times it appears blades can be repaired after a SS crash. I was quite surprised how little actual damage was incurred the blade in the one shown; the Al brake material is quite lot soft so it just deforms not causing all that much havoc and destruction as one imagines will be...I suspect the laundry bill will still be nearly as expensive after any event :)

I too have heard that the brake does not necessarily damage the blade beyond repair. But considering that, new SS cartridge $80-90. And to simply sharpen a Forrest II 40 tooth blade plus shipping both ways is just shy of $50. Repairs would be on top of that. So in this example, the SS expense would be $150 minimum.

Considering that, the Bosch wins hands down. But you have to consider that the Bosch only uses one line of defense to prevent you from being cut during a trigger. While both saws use the drop down feature to protect you if that feature was compromised with perhaps a build up of debris that prevented the blade from dropping below the surface the redundant brake feature might be the air bag thar assists the seat belt.