anyone work for Lowe's or Home Depot?

try an oil rig, or the alaska pipeline. that's how they work.

That hourly rate, even *IF* it is fulltime, sounds so much more impressive than $35K a year. As I said in another post, if everyone discussed *dollars* *per* *year*, we could compare salaries/wages a lot more simply especially since a lot of jobs deliberately keep workers well under the forty limit to avoid having to provide benefits.

Gerry

My 2 cents...

They seem to be all English speaking so the pay cannot be that bad. :)

Compare that with the Sears that is next door to our local BORG that I visited last night and spoke to an individual in the tool department.

Me : "Could you tell me the ACTUAL HP on this drill-press" Tool Manager: "Yes, it saiz richt there 2HP", as he points to sign reading '2HP maximum developed" Me: "No, not the maximum HP, but the true HP of the drill press" Tool Manager : "ajh jyes, 10 inches" Me: "Thanks"

I do not know why I keep going to Sears.......

I am sure the pay scale corresponds between the two as well.

Roger.

GERRY responds:

I don't think it makes a whole lot of difference. There's not a lot of effort involved in converting hourly wages to annual (multiply by 2080 for a full week every week), but, as you note, there may not be much point. I don't know how many hours Marvin worked or works, but it wasn't full time, nor did he wish to work full time. Setting him up as earning 35K per year would have been a lie. It is far easier for most hourly wage jobs to provide the hourly rate than it is to extrapolate because of the variable hours. I've got another friend who makes about $16 an hour, but almost never drags down less than 50K a year. He puts the time in, does the work, and makes pretty decent money. How do I specifiy his salary? Well, I say he makes 16 bucks an hour, except when he's making 24.

At the start of the year, neither he nor his boss has any idea of how many time and a half hours he'll get, so specifying his earnings at 55K is not correct. He may only make 45, but is more likely to tap 60, sometimes a touch more.

The only time a company has to keep workers under xx hours to avoid providing benefits is when they provide benefits for those working a full week (which the company may designate as 35, 37-1/2 or 40 hours a week). If no one is paid benefits, there is no need to worry about hours. Admittedly, this tends to be the case in small companies. I've seen a lot of it with small contractors and builders. An extra buck or two an hour is supposed to make up for the lack of benefits.

It doesn't work if you check out health care costs today, which have reached thelevel of criminal (and not all of it is the fault of the insurance companies by any stretch).

Charlie Self "It is not strange... to mistake change for progress." Millard Fillmore

Of course they did...it would be impossible to state otherwise, on the other hand the other half of the doctors out there graduated in the top half of their classes.

Holy Crap! That many? Next thing you know you'll be telling me that they were below average too. Damn, that is scary! Ed

Bullshit.

Your claim was that the employees of HD/Lowes earned minimum wage, which is virtually Always expressed in dollars per hour.

Now that you've been shown to have your head up your ass and generally have no idea what you're talking about, you're trying to nuance your claim by saying it's no longer an issue of minimum wage, but a comparison to upper management (which is a completely specious argument, and you Know it).

Nice try. No dice.

Be a nice Liberal and crawl back into your hole.

My son, a petroleum engineer, worked 12 hours a day for 29 straight days while on an oil rig in the gulf. At the end, I think he would have been happy to work for Lowe's

I spent 117 days straight in the Indian Ocean aboard an aircraft carrier but STILL don't want to work for Lowes! :) Allen

And do we have the right?

As we get older and wiser, we often find that there's more important aspects to a job than wages.

You can often tell a good employer by the attitude and friendliness of its employees. I've always gotten good vibes from Wal-Mart and Home Depot.

Have a nice week...

Trent

What do you call a smart blonde? A golden retriever.

Check with one of the stores, David. I'm not sure that the stock clerks even work for the store. The last time I checked (years ago, at one of my local HD) they contracted with an inventory company to stock the shelves.

Many of the large retail stores in my area have gone this route. Their employees no longer do stocking.

Good luck.

Have a nice week...

Trent

What do you call a smart blonde? A golden retriever.

Do you think she told you the truth?

Have a nice week...

Trent

What do you call a smart blonde? A golden retriever.

Not everybody works for the money and/or benefits.

And even THOSE folks are often happy.

Have a nice week...

Trent

What do you call a smart blonde? A golden retriever.

I always thought it was funny that for all the people who complain about how little Walmart pays, Walmart always has a long line of people who are dying to work there.

Walmart doesn't pretend to pay big bucks. Why pretend that they do?

Huh? I see no pretense anywhere about Walmart paying big bucks. Unless things have changed, the Bedford, VA store, where some people I know work, start everyone at $5.30 an hour. I think that's just to be able to say they're paying above minimum wage. I don't know if that's chain policy, but it seems likely.

That long line of people is essential, as the turnover is enormous. But I've heard it's a pretty good place for retirees who need a few extra bucks to work. It gets them out and involved and brings in some money to supplement SS.

Charlie Self "It is not strange... to mistake change for progress." Millard Fillmore

So...you must mean turnover because of death. Just so people don't get the idea that there's a turnover because they're disgruntled employees.

Have a nice week...

Trent

What do you call a smart blonde? A golden retriever.

Up here, the auto insurers continue to cry the blues and raise rates by leaps and bounds. A few weeks ago however, the newspapers announced that the insurance companies' profits were up over *800%* /in/ /one/ /year/. They are among the biggest, most obscene bandits in our economy.

Gerry

In place of a reasoned, thought-out response, you spew out NOTHING but insults and you say that I have no idea. You obviously have *no*

I guess this NG had to have a pissant like you who basks in the anonymity and invulnerability that USENET provides for mental midgets.

BTW, I think there's a village looking for you.

Gerry

What's that old Joke? What do you call the guy who graduated *last* in his medical school class?

Doctor...