You are a 4th Year apprentice, what do you do next?
May 30, 2018 127 Replies
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Dave Plowman (News)
Isn't a shell suit a suit too? ;-)
Logic would say that clothes provide two main functions. To keep you warm or cool and to offer a degree of protection to the skin.
The idea of wearing anything for everyday use that you can't launder at home seems to me pretty odd.
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Dave Plowman (News)
Not an expert on pyjamas, but where would you keep your mobile phone?
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Dave Plowman (News)
Yup. In equal numbers, obviously. Except now it's mainly funerals. Although quite a few of those I once worked with demand casual dress at their funerals.
Went to a colleague's one - who I thought I knew quite well. In a working with quite a bit context. Turned out he was a keen nudist and also a line dancer. All their line dancing mates turned up in the appropriate dress. His nudist pals weren't so obvious.
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Tim Watts
Totally with you there Dave :)
Can't remember the last time I wore a suit, even for a job interview.
Oh - yes I do, it was that one with an investment bank (stepped away when I saw the hideous football field sized former trading floor with tiny desks that would have been my workplace - no not just for that, but that crystallised in my mind why I would not be happy working for a corporation like that).
But apart from that - probably my wedding day... Not even subsequent funerals.
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Tim Watts
Once in a while, I share my table on the train with some old gentleman who is absolutely dapper (not the same one, you get the old random chap now and then down my way) and it is a nice change to see someone, even if they're old and not in shape, be decked out in a good shirt (not an M&S - but the sort that probably costs £50-100 a shirt), nice tie or bow tie, well groomed 'tache and a perfectly fitting tailored suit.
That's just a whole other level.
But run of the mill cheap suits - meh... Smart casual can be done better, and often is.
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Tim Watts
Mine too - he was literally this guy:
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He had a set of work clothes for really filthy jobs, but a spot of light DIY involved just rolling shirtsleeves up. And a cotton jacket at the weekend.
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ARW
They are, but you don't want one dying at work. RIDDOR would require a lot of form filling.
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Max Demian
In the breast pocket, together with your credit card.
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ARW
I shall be taking a copy of that to my next asbestos awareness course. It's the same course every year and the guy running it has not shown us that one.
Cheers
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ARW
I once went to the funeral of a joiner who had requested that "lads in the trade should wear their work clothes".
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Robin
But decisions, decisions! Taking the next suit in the cycle, a white shirt and the next tie in the cycle (and of course black Oxford shoes) minimised the need for decisions, leaving more time for important things (like caffeine).
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charles
You've missed out "staus symbol". In WW2, officers wore ties, other ranks didn't.
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Tim Streater
No.
He is.
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michael adams
For some reason pyjamas have got a top pocket
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I'm not sure what its there for, as you'd imagine things would fall out when you're in bed, but there you go.
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michael adams
They also function as an indicator of status.
In the past there were things called sumptuary laws (among other names and it may be linked to con sumption ) which strictly enforced what type of clothes each grade of society could wear in terms of materials fur etc, dye especuially purple, sleeve length, all sorts of things.
I don't actually know who was charged with enforcing it whether there were "clothes police" but two minutes wiki'ing would probably provide an answer
The same still applies with military uniforms etc. Ceremonial certainly.
Status again. If you can afford to get all your stuff laundered and dry cleaned, and have a sufficiently large wardrobe not to worry about not having anything to wear, then having a laundry van turning up regularly on your doorstep is nowadays a mark of status.
And no washday red hands either.
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michael adams
But good taste is purely in the eye of the beholder, or the wearer in this case.
As far as people who wear shell suits all the time are concerened, they've got perfectly good taste.
It's the people who look down on them who are the snobs.
I don't look down on such people myself, they've simply got different tastes.
Just so long as they don't start affecting property values, at least.
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S Viemeister
Really? I have photos of both my parents in their WWII uniforms. Both my mother and my father were wearing ties, and they were both non-coms.
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Martin
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ARW
+1
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ARW
It would be there for a handkerchief.
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