World Nuclear Assoc: Nuclear power in the UK - a very interesting read

Very much depends on where you live. Generally metropolitan areas are much better funded (on a per capita measure) than rural ones.

You can but some are better balanced than others. like

Like all the cuts in the NHS that appear to have made it a lot better?

Tesco charge 7 quid for delivery, unless you spend more than 40 quid.

Interesting you expect that poor OAP who can't afford to run a 1 bar electric fire to have a freezer, microwave and computer. ;-)

Yup. All done for efficiency. That being financial efficiency. Patient care is at the bottom of the list.

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e. About tuppence an hour at full whack, 32p a day £2.24 a week.

hould be less much of the time.

It sure is a problem.

moving around doesn't change need for heat. And if you're elderly and finan cially struggling you won't be doing much going out.

ce & comfortable. But they're not cheap, and possibly not a few other thing s either.

Quite. I'd not expect health problems at such low levels, but I don't know if it's been tested. If I were elderly, poor and freezing I'd run with it - if by some miracle the money showed up.

NT

It's cheaper than meals on wheels anyway. I did look at the prices of services like that years ago.

NT

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It's not *the* problem, though. If someone in the UK can't afford £2 a week for heat, the problem is wealth poverty.

Yes, it does. I'd have thought just about every animal knows this :-)

Almost the opposite in my experience. But I would accept that a significant minority (say) might be staying in most of the time. Social isolation can be a killer, too.

the question is of course how much food you need to stay warm moving about versus how much energy you need to stay warm being immobile, and how much this costs relatively speaking.

And how much elderly people CAN move.

You try brisk exercise with blocked coronary arteries...

The principal source of energy available to the human body is the food that is consumed. When a person takes exercise they use energy inefficiently, like most machines. Some of that energy is used in the actual moving about, and the rest appears as heat, raising body temperature, causing sweating etc. Surely, when food supplies are limited, it's better to remain fairly still and conserve what energy is available solely for body warmth, rather that wasting much of that energy moving about and relying on what's left over to create warmth.

That's how Scandinavians do it. Stay drunk and immobile all winter.

So heat is a problem. Very very obviously.

When you're elderly with limited mobility the rate & amount of movement mak es very little difference. You still need heat. Odd that some don't realise that.

minority?

Enjoy trolling.

Older people also often have poor or worsening circulation which makes it harder for them to get warm.

No, quite. I was referring to the 'they' in the OP's quote. Causes of winter deaths are notoriously difficult to pin down in a general sense - section 12 of that report.

Indeed.

Moving around does change the need for heat. Obviously, if you have limited mobility you can't move around as much. Not sure why you felt the need to say that.

Should have been clearer - *significant* minority.

Depends also how you define elderly, I suppose. Figures for England's over 65s:

Broken down a bit, with a focus on mobility:

But not so difficult for the likes of Tomlinson to blame on 'tree huggers'.

;-)

But it only costs £2 a week to get warm. More than covered by what the government pays them to get warm.

think he's been on the sauce again

"Dave Plowman (News)" posted

If that's what they are doing they are going a funny way about it. Taxes for the rich - in fact for the better off generally - have increased markedly in the last five years.