Trading Standards

[ciscokidicantec]

Hi Everyone - Errr - What Is the function Of Trading Standards??. They remind me of that advert - with the words changed of course from, "New Customer Only" To "Sorry Data Protection Act". I thought that they would be in a position to disclosed all The John Wayne's out there but no what do you get, yes you guessed it SDPA's.

My wish to the BBC's Watchdog is please "Stop Broadcasting Immediately" as it shows how easy it is to encourage these high earners to get away with it and in many cases "How To Do It".

There seems to be very little prosecutions. And those found guilty just pay a small fine, for which you have to further pay the courts to collect it - and then its not guaranteed. And then simple change their company name and start trading again

All it would take for the UK to sell better products to the consumer is to take B & Q, Wicks, Homebase, NU Tools (especially), Screwfix etc to court and fine them =A3100,000 for selling lets say a drill which simply broke within 14 days plus give the customer =A31000 conpensation for all the time, trouble and risk in some cases. And for the courts to ask what is "Trading Standards For". We would all be enjoying some very special nice to use tools in the future. A job in the Inspection Department would mean something and the manager of this department would be on the board of directors, showing their teeth.

All those in favour just keep writing to this thread. Someone may just take some notice. So watchout B & Q or should that be Bodge and Queue.

[Tony Bryer]

Alternatively one might educate the public so that they realise that a £19.99 tool cannot be expected to be the equal of a £49.99 one, let along a £179.99 one. The impression I get from posts in this group is that the likes of B&Q don't quibble when failed tools are returned.

[John Rumm]

What, for giving people what they want and are preapared to pay for?

There are people in this newsgroup who actually believe buying three Nu Tool / PPPro / Ryobi products is a better deal than one more expensive Bosch or Makita.

You can have them now....

You do speak nonsense....

[bill]

if everything was made so it never became faulty, you would be spending most of your life paying for goods on credit, as they would cost so bloody much,

plus we would still be living in the dark ages

[bigcat]

Immediately"

Queue.

I was real short of money one time, cashflows a bummer, but needed to get a job done. I bought a =A327 mitre saw, I knew what I was getting, it was wha I wanted and got the job done.

If I'd only been able to buy a decent one for 200-300 I'd have had much bigger problems. Heck if I'd had to buy industrial grade tools for all the jobs I've ever done I'd probably be bankfupt :)

I reckon youre about 18. You get what you pay for, or less. You cant get more than you pay for. Youre responsible for your deicisions in this life, and lifes full of risks. whining to others to protect you against every conceivable problm in life is a poor strategy for living.

NT

[usenet]

... and for some uses it *is* a better deal.

[Derek *]

Pity the EU has just done exactly the opposite wrt airfares/airlines.

DG

[John Rumm]

Indeed. Hence eradicating them from sale is not going to do anyone any favours!

[Derek *]

A cheap Dremel type set I bought at Makro was *So* feeble with attachments and bits that were so blunt and soft it was literally useless.

I think Bosch and B&D domestic stuff is about right for DIY.

"Sundry Brand" Chinese has on occasion failed to last out the first job.

I am, about 18 stones.

[Owain]

"Derek *" wrote | Tony Bryer wrote: | >Alternatively one might educate the public so that they | >realise that a £19.99 tool cannot be expected to be the | >equal of a £49.99 one, let along a £179.99 one. | Pity the EU has just done exactly the opposite wrt airfares/ | airlines.

But power tools are (10% discount on Wrinkly Wednesdays and similar offers aside) sold for a clear price for the product. The airlines do sell exactly the same flight at prices from 99p to £179 (probably an even wider disparity) depending on the whims of 'demand management'. They have educated the public to expect the same level of service regardless of ticket price.

Owain

[Mike]

That's not quite the same. With power tools I can buy a £20 one or a £200 one. As a business user I want airlines to take their obligations to get me from A to B on time seriously but with the low cost cowboys pushing full fair airlines off of many routes, especially those not involving Heathrow, one is left with little choice but to use their overcrowded flying cattle pens.

The EU rule is probably because they've f***ed up too many EU meetings with people arriving late/not at all.

[Doctor Evil]

I know what you mean. They are too cheap. I was one plane and it full of pigs.

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[Dave Plowman (News)]

This would simply result in an increase in the price of the tools. Clearly, all don't fail within 14 days, so it's a question of poor quality control. And proper quality control is an expensive business. Now if B&Q etc were reticent about replacing faulty goods, fines would definitely be the way to go. But by all accounts they're very good. FWIW, I've got quite a few B&Q type quality power tools - mostly just bought to see if I'd make much use of them - and perhaps replaced by something better if I do. And the first of those, a 40 quid pillar drill is still going strong despite having had what I'd describe as fairly heavy DIY use. If it failed tomorrow it'd not owe me anything. Same with a PPPro

18 volt drill.

Their incredibly low prices bring such things within the grasp of the amateur. And as such offer good value for money. But that's not to say a serious DIYer wouldn't be advised to go for something better.

[Huge]

IME, EU bigwigs take air taxis.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Yup. Totally.

[Mike]

Possibly. But the meetings where things actually get done involve normal transport. And whereas one used to be able to guarantee getting to a meeting at say 9:30 in Madrid or whatever, nowadays one needs to fly the night before and stay in a hotel to avoid being late.