Thunderbird 115

It may be simpler for me to remove it completely and install an older version. As all our email is stored on our home server, all the emails will still be there just by pointing the client at the server.

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SteveW
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Am 07/10/2023 um 22:47 schrieb SteveW:

That might corrupt your Thunderbird profile.

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Ottavio Caruso

In message <ug0i5l$3q7ma$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me, Ottavio Caruso snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com writes

Might be worth it!

My version is currently timing out on sending mail:-(

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Tim Lamb

I was starting to get that on 102 if I took too long composing a Usenet reply. If I replied quickly after reading a post there was no problem sending it. If i took longer it sat there and then complained of a timeout. I had to close down TB which gave me the option to save or discard the message. Saving put it drafts folder. On restarting TB I could always select the draft and post/send it.

This problem hasn't been seen with 115

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alan_m

Hmm. I'm not using it for Usenet.

Current problem is not collecting posts I know are on the server and timing out on sending mail:-)

I may not have helped by installing the current version in an attempt to fix things.

What would a *corrupted profile* do to saved mail messages?

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Reply to
Tim Lamb

I have had this on 115. I found that fetching new messages and then re-sending fixed it..

Dave

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David Wade

I'm not bothered about that. It takes minutes to create a new profile and the emails (going back decades) are all on our home server, so Thunderbird will simply download them again from there.

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SteveW

I think I had it on the previous version too

Reply to
The Natural Philosopher

If it's only for emails, ok, but I have 100s of newsgroups. I haven't found a reliable way to copy all the settings from one profile to another. Firefox can do that, not Thunderbird, but if anybody knows how to do that, I'll be glad to know.

I am also thinking of migrating from Thunderbird to Alpine.

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Ottavio Caruso

In message <ug360k$126ln$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me, Ottavio Caruso snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com writes

Well that was a total waste of my time!

I decided to bite the bullet and revert to 102.13.0 before all this crap started. Sadly my available roll back options took me back nearly 2 months.

Strangely both Firefox and T Bird came up as possibly virus contaminated or deleted so I had to use Chrome to find some downloads for W7.

Got Firefox back and went looking for T Bird 102.13.0 found a site and got 115 again!

Grr! The current issue is new mail being displayed briefly and discarded before I have time to read or file:-(

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Tim Lamb

On my office PC I'm still on 60.5.1 having been forced to roll-back on the subsequent update because it would no longer open up when trying to e-mail documents from my stand-alone version of QuickBooks.(QB 2015) No doubt like many other software versions they'll soon make it stop working with Windows7 too if they haven't already.

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www.GymRatZ.co.uk

It took me a while to reset things to make everything acceptable.

With one very big exception that I cannot resolve: When I select a folder, the old thunderbird would with go to the first unread message (I think) or certainly go to the same email I had highlighted the previous time I had the folder open. Now it seems to open the folder in a random position, even if the same message is selected.

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Fredxx

There are several storage spots (of course).

The .rc file, keeps track of the unread messages. I have trimmed this line down a bit, as it was too long to post. A tool could pick any arbitrary portion of this as a marker or as a place to start. the syntax here is kind of a standard, and has been around since at least 1990 or so. I added space characters 0x20, to make it easier to read.

uk.d-i-y: 1-1266029, 1266031-1266036, 1266038-1266067, 1266746, 1266751

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The USENET in Thunderbird, at a minimum there is the .msf file. That's the Mork file, and it is a database. And it has a multitude of flags. Some are global flags for a group, some are flags on a per-message basis (delete flag). That affords a place to store a "focus" reference, as a global. There are two dumper utilities, but one is written in Python, complete with version issues. This means if you dig up the code, you'll have some trouble running it.

I am unaware of a simple web page stating the database schema. You have to use a dumper, if you want to know. I have edited a .msf with code (I removed the "VPN flood" from a group, with my code), but at the time I did that, it turned out I didn't know all the "tricks" in there. It turns out that Mork supports aliasing for example, and if a line of text is seen, another part of the file can simply "link" to the previous line of text. My code didn't handle that.

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When you operate a group in "offline/sync" mode, then the body of the messages is stored in your profile. The header of the message is augmented with two lines of status fiags. But since not all users operate the newsreader this way, that would be a poor choice for a "this is the current message" flag. I had to dig into my archive, to find this example, as none of these files are in my Profile currently.

From - Sat Mar 13 01:42:46 2021 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Path: eternal-september.org!...

Since Thunderbird is cross-platform, it cannot cheat and resort to using the Registry.

It has plenty of other files it could use, but their use would not be logical. For example, I can see some activity in cache2 folder, but I haven't looked at that in any detail (except to delete it).

Since the usage of the browsing capability is strictly limited by Thunderbird, it's not likely that files such as "places.sqlite" will ever grow.

Logically, the flag belongs in a Mork file. And the rate of the Mork API changing, is pretty low, because nobody likes Mork, and nobody is going to want to edit the code for it.

Paul

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Paul

Mine has just updated (yesterday), and I thought I might have a major issue....

Clicking to read a thread, it would show a few lines of some of the responses, in the reading panel, but if I tried to actually read the entire post, the reading panel just went completely blank.

It was the same this morning, but in the past few minutes, the posts are readable, and able to reply as normal.

Reply to
Harry Bloomfield Esq

That's called "conversation view", if you don't like it, go to tools/settings/config editor and change the value of mail.operate_on_msgs_in_collapsed_threads to false.

Reply to
Andy Burns

Can I say thanks for that as well. seems to have fixed my problems. Odd when I asked a similar question on the support forums i didn't get an answer..

Dave

Reply to
David Wade

Seems to have fixed it for me - it was ridiculous

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The Natural Philosopher
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Many thanks.

I've checked that the .rc files and these are only associated with newsgroups. The issue surrounds the email file folders.

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Fredxx

Have you noticed the the --space signature separator is not displayed in

115 and so anything after the separator often looks as though its part of the body of the posting. The separator must be there because on a followup the signature is automatically removed.
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alan_m

Do you have the QuoteColours addon installed? that has an option to display the .sig in grey without the separator

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Andy Burns

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