The saga of my new smart meters

Yeah, but you can tether your simless phone to your sim'ed phone if that matters.

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Jethro_uk
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True but IIRC one of the benefits of a SatNav for Tim would be keeping him out of the London CC zone (if he ever ventures again into this plague place) which doesn't require them. He might even prefer not to be tempted to take a detour that costs £15?

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Robin

I have a Smartphone on my coffee table for use as a message client via wiffy (and I also use it when staying in hotels for the same)

But I never take it out and about with me - it too darn big

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tim...

I do that on my tablet - which doesn't even have the capacity for a SIM

Reply to
tim...

Good to know.

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Reply to
Tim Lamb

Huh! The current plan (Euro5 diesel) is to avoid the place altogether or buy a modest cost electric shopper. 25 miles to Marble Arch:-)

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Reply to
Tim Lamb

Hmm.. signing in to be able to transfer saved contacts was too much for my sensitivities. However, if Google can make money out of my actual location.. good luck!

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Tim Lamb

Yes, you can tell Google maps to load an large area of map data over wifi and it'll keep it updated for you every couple of months, obviously you don't get live traffic info without a SIM.

I presume Waze and Here maps can do similar?

Reply to
Andy Burns

With Here you can load the whole of Europe if you want (and have space), I have UK an W. Europe in mine, job done, it just works. It's a good idea to update it occasionally of course.

Reply to
Chris Green

is there such a thing?

Reply to
tim...

getting closer

Problem is 'cheap as chips' usually means f*ck all range

Reply to
The Natural Philosopher

out of boredom I did go looking

£17.5k will net you a skoda citigo e iV which would fulfil most peoples needs as long as they didnt want to do more than 100 miles in a day...

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Whether £17.5k is cheap as chips is a matter of perception....

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The Natural Philosopher

In message <rvljo7$769$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me, tim... snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com writes

Modest cost seems a illusive:-(

The grant money seems to have been added to the manufacturers price structure.

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Tim Lamb

Elusive or illusory, but never illusive

you could build the equivalent of an electric 2CV for peanuts but it would never get through regulations.

The whole point of regulations is to make extra work for Euroworkers and extra profit for Eurobusiness.

The whole carbon neutral thing is nothing to do with the planet and everything to do with enforced obsolescence.

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The Natural Philosopher

"We (the UN/IPCC) redistribute de facto the world's wealth by climate policy..."

"One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy any more..."

(written by an IPCC panel member, around 2010)

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Spike

Ah bless. More reasoned argument.

Reply to
Jim Jackson

Why thank you!

I meant to say *hard to find* but my spell checker couldn't agree.

The basic Citigoe is within reach but they seem to have cut out some fairly essential electronics.

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Tim Lamb

Says he carefully deleting the reasoned argument.

Reply to
Fred

I have done the same. On MSE, there is actually a button for "Show only current supplier", and for Avro they have nothing at all.

I tried to get a new Avro quote, but the site kept sending me straight to my Dashboard. Turned out I had to select "Renew" instead, in order to see their offer.

Chris

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Chris J Dixon

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