replying to Linda, Bob wrote:
Start by giving some useful information. Make, model, how old, what exactly is
happening/not happening. How are you trying to clean it?
The information you gave is only sufficient for mind readers. There are many
Tassimo machines and they are different.
Why do you have to argue all the time and offer such specious objections ?
The principle Bob enunciated is perfectly sound.
In many cases when asking technical questions either on Usenet or Web
forums, questioners simply don't give sufficient details, when they should be
encouraged to do so, at every opportunity.
As a result of their not doing so, people waste their time giving answers
which aren't applicable at all, or try to guess what the questioner is talking
about. And very little if any useful information is forthcoming
In this particular case, you being the all-knowing fount of wisdom that you
clearly are, are stating for a categorical fact that the OP didn't actually
need to provide any of this information. However its doubtful if the OP will
have known that at the time. Same as anyone else lacking the in depth
knowledge of Tassimo coffee makers to which you are clearly
Anyway so as avoid any such misunderstandings in the future, given
your clearly extensive knowledge in this area. perhaps you could prepare
a list, possibly to be appended to the Wiki of appliances, tools
etc. where potential questioners won't need to give the model
number, how old it is, and exactly what is happening when asking
their question ? As it would obviously save everyone so much trouble
as compared with the questioner having to include all this information
in their original question.
I think you are a nice guy looking to provide an optimal solution to the
OP's question, but don't forget that we are just a bunch of old farts
having a natter on the internet. We have no particular obligation to
help the OP. Especially, if the OP put very little thought into the
Indeed, as she didn't have the nous to give basic details about the
machine or what cleaning she had done, it is highly likely that she is
unhelpable. (Hence, my suggestion to buy a new one, which is probably
the optimal solution for her.)
I'm not looking to provide an optimal solution to the OP's question
in any way. The question was posted via a web portal" Homeowners
Hub"., a commercial operation who leech off of this group
Indeed. And Bob who may or may not consider himself an old fart
enunciated a general principal -
that questioners in general should be encouraged to provide sufficient
detail so as to enable others to answer their question.
While NT who's a self proclaimed old fart, but possibily not quite as old
as other posters who maybe chose not to wallow in such a persona, which
to be honest for some people at least, gets a bit wearing after a time,
sought to question the general principle Bob was espousing.
Solely by reference to a single exception, or at least so he
claims, Tassimo Coffee makers. Now whether NT is correct in his
assertion that all Tassimo coffee makers are identical in this
regard, is totally irellevant to the validity of the general principle
Bob was espousing.
In other words, not to put to fine a point on it as is often the case
with NT, he was spouting total nonsense.
On Saturday, 27 May 2017 08:36:02 UTC+1, michael adams wrote:
do you think all advice here is good?
yes and no. It's one of those repair jobs where almost 100% of the time the
blockage is limescale, and acid is what fixes it. So you can get into the
details but practically it's pointless, the best thing is to descale it, an
d only if that fails to look more closely at what's going on - or bin it.
every? :) You can waste their time if you want.
now you're being silly
at this point they don't, as I've explained why.
Knowing that around 99% of coffee maker blockages are limescale is just rep
air basics knowledge.
feel free to waste your time on that
you can debate what is 99% likely to be irrelevant with the OP if you want.
Coming from you, you mean ?
You really need to ask ?
Either it is or it isn't.
If you're saying it isn't then according to you questioners needn't bother giving any
But only about things you happen to know about - at least so you claim.
Maybe in this case they shouldn't even have bothered mentioning its a coffee maker ?
Maybe they could have just said "it isn't working ", while you and your fellow
fogeys could have spent the next three or four days trying to guess
what the OP was referring to, with, as is often the case on Usenet,
no further input from the OP at all.
Try a stronger solution of de-scaler, made with hot water, left overnight
If not successful, that's about the level of it, a chance to upgrade to
a bean-to-cup machine, I've bought several "refurb" machines (for self
and family) from this seller
if you keep an eye out for a week or so, you ought to "win" one for
around £100, depending if you want plastic or chrome finish ...
Well there surely has to be some kind of filter in there, maybe it just
needs removing and replacing.
There are so many designs for these but it seems to me that if water can go
in and not come out the place its supposed to there is a very big clue!
Of course it could be a valve that is stuck. With modern equipment its been
my experience that much of the time they want them to be unrepairable.
This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from...
Brian, my soon to be exes in-laws bought half a dozen coffee machines
they threw at me because they blocked.
All different makes. All I tried to descale. I am not bad at fixing
stuff. Not one ever worked again.
Lie the Nutribullet my wife burned the bearings out of on day one, they
are fashionable shit that is not designed to work beyond the duration of
the national advertising campaign.
Unless you are prepared to spend thousands on a pro machine, they are
simply not worth buying.
“But what a weak barrier is truth when it stands in the way of an
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