Stockpiling boilers?

[Andrew]

Make friends with your local chippy ?

[Andrew]

One episode of "how to they make that" on Quest showed a ?coal-fired powerstation where the flue gases were used to make ?gypsum which was then turned into plasterboard. My chemistry is rusty, so I can't remember the details. Might be something like this -

[williamwright]

That would only have ended badly for them.

Bill

[Dave Plowman (News]

I take it you have a vested interest?

I'll take a bet with you. That there are far more gas explosions where 'professionals' were involved than skilled amateurs.

[Tim+]

Apart from a workable/economically viable carbon capture system.

Tim

[Tim+]

But there are far far more ?professional? installs than amateur ones so total numbers of explosions per type of installation would be misleading.

Tim

[Theo]

Carbon capture is doable (at a power station). Storage is the problem.

But anyway, reducing emissions by (say) 90% is still a win.

Theo

[Robin]

Can you cite research to show a government could truthfully say after plutonium has been dispersed in a city it will cause /no/ deaths? And that's what's needed. If all you can truthfully tell the public is that the excess deaths will be lost in the noise of the usual deaths from cancer many (if not most) of the public will stay away until you decontaminate. And some (possibly many) will stay away even after decontamination.

[AJH]

Surely the reason for not having domestic gas boilers is that there is far more utility in burning it in a combined cycle electricity generator, possibly linked to some district heating than just heating water up to 80C and circulating it. Thus some may still be available to fill in the gaps renewables leave.

[Fredxx]

Suggests that the effects may be overstated, especially its toxicity.

This article may be of interest but will attract less scrutiny than a wiki page:

[Steve Walker]

Indeed, how will they know if you've self installed a replacement boiler, unless you've asked them in to look at something else and they see it? Especially as an enforcement notice must be issued within 12 months of the completion of the work or a prosecution started within 2 years of it, so probably too late if they do eventually see it.

Yes they can seek an injunction preventing any use of the building until it is put right, but a) that is really reserved for dangerous situations and b) this power is rarely (if ever) used.

[Steve Walker]

And how can it void your insurance when the legal requirement is for the installer to be competent and there is no requirement for them to be registered, as long as they are not being paid for the work?

Where in most insurance documents does it mention self-installing boilers?

[Fredxx]

That was my thought too.

[Fredxx]

Can you provide evidence of this?

Which suggests there was no insurance in the first place.

Quite, except town gas seem to stay in the pipes ok.

[The Natural Philosopher]

Well of course.

Unfortunately any time hydrogen gets loose there is a lot of oxygen around.

You might just as well say that fuel doesn't explode.

So why are they making fuel-air bombs?

You might just as well say that flour or coal dust doesn't explode.

In air it damn well does.

[Brian Gaff (Sofa]

It won't happen. At least if it does somebody is going to have to build some nuclear reactors very quickly to serve all the electric heat pumps. These are used in many parts of the world of course, and are a pretty mature technology now.

What with Electric vehicles and electric heating, the power is going to have to come from somewhere especially in Winter. I think the idea is a good one, but one wonders how much psh will be on to actually do it. Brian

[The Natural Philosopher]

Result is a 3% increase in carbon emissions

[Robin]

Indeed. But AFAICS neither allows a clear and simple "Nothing to worry about, it can't kill you." And leaders have to work with the populations they have, most of whom won't give a toss that earnest scientists tell them they're more likely to die from lightning than the the plutonium.

[The Natural Philosopher]

First of all only if you believe that CO2 is EVIL. All the evidence is that a doubling of CO2 would increase food production, shrink deserts and have f*ck all effect on global climate, although 1 °C would be nice and give us more farmland.

Secondly no intermittent renewable source will achieve that or anything like it. In fact intermittent renewable energy actually increases emissions die to its massive energy footprint in manufacturing and disposal and the fact that it has to be co fired sub optimally with fossil fuel.

Renewable energy? is an ArtStudents? solution to an ArtStudents? nonproblem.

If you want reliable cheap low pollution power, you build nuclear plants.

If you want to scam consumers and virtue signal your way to massive taxpayer ripoffs, you build windmills

[The Natural Philosopher]

Well of course it wouldn't causes any deaths! Not unless you collected it all up and swallowed it, and that would be *chemical* poisoning

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The public will believe anything they are told if it is told them long enough and loud enough

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