In the light of plans to stop new gas or oil boilers being fitted after
2025 how many folk are considering buying a ?spare? boiler? ;-)I must admit the thought has crossed my mind?
I?m assuming that only professional installs can be banned.
Tim
Like there?s ever gonna be a domestic hydrogen supply?
Seriously, if we *do* go down the route of manufacturing hydrogen I?m pretty sure it?ll be reserved for uses where rapid refuelling is required, not squandered on domestic heating.
Tim
A non-professional gas installation voids your household insurance. There was a spectacular one went bang round here about a decade ago. The burnt out remains of the house sat unloved for years afterwards.
Persuading hydrogen to stay inside the existing gas distribution pipes is going to be interesting (Chinese usage).
I see Worcester-Bosch are suggesting they are developing hydrogen ready boilers. Boilers which can run on natural gas now, but someday, and that day may never come, they can be called upon to run on hydrogen.
As stated many times before, coal gas contained a high percentage of hydrogen.
Rapid/load balancing can be handled by other means. Long term storage for winter is the real problem in the UK. Hydrogen can be stored.
It could be banned under building regulations (which already make fitting a new gas boiler notifiable).
As usual, what effort will be put into enforcement is another matter.
Not nearly as safely as plutonium
But TBF harder to weaponise.
I'm not sure about that. I would guess plutonium storage is much, much cheaper.
However the real point is that it is easier to produce suitable amounts of plutonium.
No, MUCH much easier.
A thin walled tank of hydrogen driven into a town centre with a detonator strapped to the outside... any rag head can do that.
Making a nuclear weapon is a very very skilled exercise in precision mechanics.
You need to machine the elements to fit exactly without being able to put them together first, and then design an explosive detonator to slam them all together at exactly the same time
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No, its easy to make hydrogen. The real point is that its way *cheaper* to produce plutonium once you have a reactor.
I seem to recall there is an experimental village somewhere in the UK where they are trialling this.
Not if you just grind it into dust and scatter it or blow it up with conventional explosives.
Tim
Mine has been running happily since 1989
Well it does beg the question why Northern Gas Networks are busy ripping up roads around here putting new pipe work in or lining existing pipes. At best if the government are serious about their 2030 deadline how long after will all gas continue to be used with a boiler lifespan rated at 10yrs. by 2040 there will be few people requiring gas.
Richard
The Germans had an idea of delivering such material by rocket to New York in WWII, and later I believe Saddam had a similar idea. However, it hasn't been followed up. perhaps because it is an inefficient method of delivery and doubtless modelling suggested it isn't particularly effective except as a means of causing panic.
Maybe use Ammonia. Easy leak detection.
Indeed. But I don't see how that's going to give much of a blast. As I am sure you recognise, hydrogen per se cannot explode. That requires a mixture of hydrogen and an oxydiser. So they'd need to drive into a relatiovely contained space (e.g. a bus sttaion), vent the hydrogen, and then ignite it when it has reach the right concentration. Possible but not easy.
I know the basics of atom bomb making. But a plutonium RDD avoids all that. Use it above a major city centre. Then sit back to watch to the panic over hours & days, the economic impact over months and years, and the health impact over decades.
Seriously, how is anyone going to know? The quality of ?professional? installations is so variable that as long as you?re halfway competent no one will be able to tell the difference, particularly if you?re just swapping a boiler and not relocating it.
Not unknown after professional installations! ;-)
Tim
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