There was a fire in a warehouse that destroyed hundreds of examples of the finest modern British art.
And the bad news is that it was all insured. Charles Saatchi can afford to go and get the wankers to produce more.
... and here's me thinking that I was the only cynic that thought that sum total of human creativity had improved today...
.andy
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And he wouldn't it be just like one of them to declare the charred remains to be a new Work O'fArt ;-)
The REALLY bad news is, it will probably mean (or be used as an excuses for) a hike in insurance premiums.... :~(
I've got an old Millets tent in the loft, anyone got a rotten old shed? Perhaps we can set up a donation for the poor fella.
In message , Michael Mcneil writes
And were two members of a certain union seen having a punch up while BBQing Daemon Hirst's cow ?
Fellerette you mean? ... Tracey Emim
You realise you might have to have sex with that awful woman to try and recreate the original
Do you know her? Do you know that she's an awful woman?
And you're wrong anyway, it was all the people she's slept with, including her twin brother, in the womb, her mother, her friends - not just her lovers.
The comments I've read so far say more about the commentators than about the art.
Mary
In message , Mary Fisher writes
I reserve the right to dislike her and to question to what extent it's art.
it's concept over substance.
My test to measure the artistic quality is to ask myself whether if I had produced the same, would I have received the same adulation / money ? The answer being a resounding "no", I conclude that it's the artist, not the art which is important. It seems a huge scam to me.
... and even worse than that, pay them again.
So it's about money!
I'm not keen on her work either, nor Damien's (even though he lived just up the road and is a friend of one of our sons) but more knowledgeable people than me rate their work highly. Who am I to argue with them?
Mary
Mary
In message , Mary Fisher writes
Go for it gel, say what you think (as usual) ... a heap of elephant dung is also a pile of shit
Quite contrary ...
Oh - how original (1)
Oh, how original (2)
Any more where they came from?
Mary
Thus, a lot more useful!
Regards Capitol
"geoff" wrote | Go for it gel, say what you think (as usual) ... a heap of elephant dung | is also a pile of shit
But it's how it's arranged, and the concept behind it, that matters.
Besides, the elephant didn't apply for an arts council grant.
Owain
I may not be an artist but I know what I like. Even Charlie boy had the sense to keep it all piled in a shed.
Perhaps it was the ultimat accolade. Hang the perpetrator in the Tate says I.
Mary, don't you think there might be an element of the King's Suit of Clothes syndrome here? Isn't it possible the "more knowledgeable" people you speak of might be more influenced by what's fashionable at any point in time, rather than by true talent? I don't know about modern art, but I know this certainly happens in other art forms, particularly interior design, architecture and even music. Do you remember that piece called "4 minutes 33 seconds" by John Cage, where the "performer" opens the lid of the piano keyboard, sits for several minutes in silence and then closes the lid again and takes his bow. Is there really any talent in that? What do you think when you see all the people applauding? Are they really experts, or are they brainless Lemmings following a fashionable trend? It's the same with avant garde modern art. You can guess what I think.
Peter
It's hardly the artists' fault that speculators inflate the value of their work. Always takes a few decades for the avant garde to become mainstream but, on this occasion, I reckon somebody got cold feet and settled for the insurance money.
It's all a case of the emperors new clothes though, innit? One 'critic' says that it is 'art' and everone else follows suit.
Why is it that when damien hirst pickles a dead rabbit it is "Art" worth million, but if I were to do exactly the same it'd simply be a "picked rabbit" worth nothing?
Why should you not argue with the self-proclaimed experts? After all they are the ones calling themselves experts, no-one else!
It's all a scam I tell ye!
sPoNiX
Former Turner prize nominee, Tracey Emin today blasted comments by Ivan Massow, head of the Institute of Contemporary Arts, who said that most conceptual art was "nothing but a pile of old crap" as a deliberate attempt to upstage and leak details of her latest masterpiece "A Steaming Lump Of Shit Wot I Did". Emin immediately called for the resignation of Massow. She told theSchmews that to leak details of her new work could seriously affect the shock value and subsequent resale value was unforgiveable and completely missed the importance her work has on all art.
Mr Massow wrote in the New Statesman magazine: "It is the product of over-indulged, middle class (barely concealed behind mockney accents), bloated egos who patronise real people with fake understanding." Emin was quick to refute this saying that her latest work explores the real inner workings of her mind and body and should be viewed as a valued contribution to the art world.
"Even when Steaming Lump was just on the floor in my studio, guvnor, gawd bless yuh, I began to realise its importance when it began to not only attract human interest but also, bleedin' amazingly, fousands of flies." Emin admits that she did consider including the flies as part of the exhibit but felt that it may be confused with the work of enfant terrible of the contemporary art world Damien Hurst.
The Saatchi gallery, which has already expressed an interest in Emin's latest work and was described by Mr Massow as "anally retentive" refused to comment except to say that Mr Massow wouldn't understand contempory art if he stepped in it whilst walking in the park. The gallery later retracted the statement after realising that "A Stepped In Squishy Dog Shit And Used Condom" would also form part of Miss Emin's latest exhibition.
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