Slightly OT: cutting someone out of an electric car

Mar 25, 2017 62 Replies

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23:51:15 on Mon, 27 Mar 2017, Clive George remarked:

Don't they have a battery a bit bigger than "what would fit under the passenger seat"?

It's electric

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But the same comments apply for hybrid. Some lithium batteries are more likely to burn than others

The battery is 16Kwh and is spread bout under the floor. The anti-collision switch is under the front passenger seat.

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03:11:04 on Tue, 28 Mar 2017, harry remarked:

But could be in many far more convenient places!

Incidentally, is this one of those fittings that doesn't change sides in RHD/LHD versons of the same vehicle?

Isn't the switch Harry describes the one which detects the high G force and cuts the power automatically in the event of a crash? So being next to the battery is good, but doesn't need to be in a "convenient" place.

until you need to reset it ;-)

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14:24:41 on Tue, 28 Mar 2017, Clive George remarked:
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Yes, that's just your words and your misunderstanding. Nobody else has said anything about there being a manual nudge to it. The anti-collision switch we've been talking about is the automatic one, you do something else if you want to manually cut the power. It's in the right place (close to the battery) for an automatic one.

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I think Harry's car is one of these. That manual contains the information you're after, including instructions on what to do if you can't wait to go through the isolation process.

I believe most chopping of cars after accidents happens at the pillars, and they're safe to cut without pulling any power.

(note Japanese car, Australian manual, and we're in the UK - I don't have any information on whether the switch swaps sides for other places).

Dunno for sure. No reason why it should. You need tools to access and reset.

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16:48:57 on Tue, 28 Mar 2017, Clive George remarked:

It makes sense to me that such a switch would have a "reset" button adjacent, as well as a "turn off you intransigent bastard" button.

cf earth leakage breakers.

Did you read the PDF I gave you? No mention of either of those in there, so in this case it looks like "sense" is wrong.

("reset" may be there, but may not be convenient - but if you're hitting something hard enough to trigger the switch, this is likely to be quite low on your list of worries)

It happens that Clive George formulated :

I heard there was a Jag, which you could disable the alarm system by simply by thumping it hard enough with your fist, on the wing.

Mine is on the nearside A pillar and a good thump on the side of the device triggers it. It then needs a good press on the button to reset it. It is mostly mechanical.

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23:52:39 on Tue, 28 Mar 2017, Clive George remarked:

Very high on the list of priorities of a fireman wanting to rescue someone from the burning car.

Um, what? "reset" is to turn the power back on, the fireman won't be wanting to do that.

Did you read the PDF I gave you?

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16:14:29 on Wed, 29 Mar 2017, Clive George remarked:

Indeed, what he'll be looking for is the "turn it off !!NOW!! button. If there isn't such a button, then the car, and any trapped occupants, are likely to be toast. I would advise against buying such a car.

I've twice asked if you've read the PDF I gave you, which tells the fireman exactly what he needs to do to turn the power. I'm guessing by your lack of answer that you've not read it.

Which is a pity, because it means you wouldn't be arguing from such a position of blind ignorance.

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19:16:24 on Wed, 29 Mar 2017, Clive George remarked:

I haven't got time to plough through the whole thing. As you are clearly so familiar, perhaps you could cut and paste the relevant paras.

Perhaps also send them to the Cambridgeshire Fire Brigade, whose apparent inability to turn off a hybrid battery seriously delayed their rescue attempts last week.

Bravo! A fine display of utter twattery.

Tim

In message , at 10:24:49 on Thu, 30 Mar

2017, Tim+ remarked:

I'll use that, next time someone (for the umpteenth time) turns the table on me (the quote the cite, or you don't care enough about the issue, table).

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