On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 16:31:59 -0800 (PST), Adam Aglionby wrote:
There were 2 noticeable aspects on that video: although kitemarked, the lock
didn't have the number on the front; he'd turned the little lever but the
lock itself stayed in the same position. I don't know if the lock is easily
undone from that stage.
In my view it means a cylinder with a reinforced centre section that
resists the snapping forces in that reduced profile section in the
middle but the term seems to have been hijacked by manufacturers that
think breaking off the outer section of a cylinder easily is a security
enhancement. Weakening the design with a few cuts is of course much
easier than adding and securely fixing a strong core to the outer
cylinder elements, the latter are much more expensive.
Think you had a lucky break on the angle grinder collateral damage, 1
'cos you were just cutting brass and 2 'cos it was striking the door at
an oblique angle. I'd be very wary of using an angle grinder near
anything that is in the slightest bit fragile (glass, plastic, carpet,
clothing) unless it was well masked, particularly if I was cutting
anything with ferrous content. With ferrous grindings you also have the
risk of any waste rusting later in contact with water for that
distinctive red/brown stain, v messy on tarmac, concrete or carpet.
On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 6:54:59 PM UTC, fred wrote:
The metallurgist in me gets a bit upset about refering to carpet or
clothing as "fragile". To me, "fragile" means that it shatters if
you hit it with a hammer. (So glass and some plastics fit.)
I think you mean "delicate".
Sorry. Pedantry over.
This weekend's task is to change a door+window combo to a patio door,
only problem being I haven't been able to find the keys for the new door
for a fortnight!
I removed an identical euro cylinder from one of the other doors I've
recently fitted and confirmed it had no anti-drill pins, no sacrificial
snap points, obviously I could get access to both sides of the door, so
removed the handles to avoid any damage to them, one pair of mole grips,
10 seconds of gentle persuasion and a poke with a screwdriver and that
was that ...
To anyone that's got el-cheapo euro locks fitted, don't fool yourself
that they provide *any* real security, a ne'er do well wouldn't give a
toss about damaging the handles to get access to a greater length of the
I was in a Screwfix a few weeks ago and a girl came in carrying a very
forlorn looking door handle and asking about a new one and eurolock. The
advice she was given by them was what you would expect.
I did get the impression that they weren't too bothered when I directed
her to a proper locksmiths, that I know well, and told her about
sacrificial snapping points and strong chamfered furniture etc.
It didn't help that hubby had been working away for sometime and was due
back that day, she wasn't in the best frame of mind. The likely hood of
the toerags being caught was probably nil.
Maybe longer prison sentences for those that commit the crimes and even
longer ones for those that fit poor locks to new homes would help?
When I asked if I could order the doors with high security cylinders,
they said "no", odd given they offer other upgrades like shootbolts to
bump-up their profit.
Still at about a fiver each I suppose it's not much wasted to take the
factory fitted jobs, I plan to replace them all with keyed-alike or
master-keyed, anti-bump/snap/pick/drill/whatever, adding the garage door
and shed into the same scheme to cut down the gaoler's bunch of keys.
Anyone got any favourite cylinder manufacturer?
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