Red diesel

Not just "F*ck Business", then. F*ck the farmers too.

I know. I was just reading a load of posts from farmers celebrating.

Indeed. Anyone (except billionaires) who voted for Boris because they were told to be scared of Corbyn deserves all they get. I for one will laugh at those queuing for foodbanks in Sunderland after voting for Boris.

I was sort of assuming that dropping the lower duty meant it would revert to road rates. I thought that on the whole ordinary farmers were very anti-brexit.

I shall do the laughing in front of the TV, not in person. I'm not stupid.

They tend to be rather conservative small businessmen. Round here they blame the EU (in the face of considerable evidence to the contrary) for

And indeed anyone generating electricity off grid, and in some cases on the grid

Just have to tank up with heating oil then

No, that is the impression created by the BBC. In fact by and large farmers are neutral. As long as they get state assistance to transition to whatever mix of products makes a profit, they dont really care.

Chicken farmers will for example benefit as unhygienic rule breaking east European chicken will be taxed . Lamb farmers may face tariff free imports from New Zealand.

Arable farmers may or may not switch crops. Rape to meet Germany's biodiesel commitments and field beans for Turkish houmous may give way to malting barley for beer, and oats for vegans :-)

It might encourage more of them to adopt the 'zero till' method of growing crops, which reduces a lot of diesel usage.

Modern tractors have already reduced diesel usage because of all the electronics and GPS that allow targetted application of sprays and fertiliser rather than just splat every square metre with the same amount.

Northern Ireland taxi drivers aren't going to like this either :-)

It will distract the noise being made by the fishermen when they are used as pawns (again) to keep the EU happy.

Prawns surely.

Seems to be official UK Treasury policy now - we don't apparently need farmers or fishermen if their special advisors hold sway.

No they are conservative little Englander types that like chasing foxes. They do blame the EU for all sorts of strange things though.

The big boys who farm zillions of monoculture acres of cereal can do the sums and were mostly pro-EU but the little guys who eke out a living on the edge of the moors blamed the EU for just about everything. They will likely see the price of lamb fall even further as a result of Brexit.

Well its about time they stopped this sort of thing as there is a lot of fiddling going on. Far better to give those who need the use of a lot of it a grant to get them over the hump of moving to a better fuel.

Brian

Prawns in the game

Dave Liquorice quoted:

And I bet those city centre places selling red diesel to "legit honest gov" customers close overnight.

I thought there was talk of a rebate scheme of some sort for farmers (but not other users such as canal boats) quite surprised that 15% of all diesel sales are red diesel ...

Lamb imports to the EU have always been tariff free.

Andy Burns explained on 04/03/2020 :

It's difficult to find a red diesel pump around here, for when I have wanted some, so I guess much of it is delivered to tanks on company premises where is is used.

on 04/03/2020, Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) supposed :

There is no difference what-so-ever between red and white diesel, apart from the red has a dye added to denote reduced duty rate.