Raising revenue from electric cars

So you trust the one business where fraud is commonplace to do this ?. How naive. How many diesel vehicles are on the road with 'welded' particle filters or plug-in devices to eliminate the need for Ad Blu (which in the case of an HGV can save the operator $thousands) ?.

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Andrew
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There are still quite a few people who are no online and do not have a smart phone. NS&I are already getting flak over their plans to change the way they operate.

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Andrew

Tesla is not German. Nor is Honda, or Toyota, or ....

There is no need for any car to have a diesel engine, but there are now 10 million of the filthy things on the road. Anything that reduces or eliminates them is a good thing.

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Andrew

Most MOT stations I know are honest. The last thing they want is to lose their income and cancel all tests for the foreseeable future. Same with dealer servicing that is the norm in the first 3 years.

The odometer is visible.

So, yes, if the penalties are harsh enough. Say removal of license for a year or two if your odometer doesn't register mileage.

Every time you charge up, there could even be a handshake that send the current mileage to a central registry. Who knows.

Every loophole will be closed, eventually.

I'm of the opinion that we will rent batteries where battery swaps will be the norm, and these will be smart enough to know.

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Fredxx

The most polluting vehicles (which should be in museums) don't need an MOT.

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Andrew

But what if the batteries get less efficient as time goes on? Surely the relation between charging current and miles travelled varies?

Regenerative braking is not 100% efficient. So people in hilly areas pay more per mile than the East Anglians?

Bill

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williamwright

In a few years time people in parts of East Anglia will probably need boats not cars.

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Andrew

Some say we should get filthy EVs off the road, rather than clean diesels with their particulate filters and NOx converters.

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Reduces what, are we talking diesels or pollution? It would be helpful if you could distinguish between filthy EVs and modern ultra clean clean diesels.

You are aware that EV tyre wear through heavy batteries contribute significantly to air pollution?

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Fredxx

If you live in Gods own country you expect to pay more.

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alan_m

I was thinking of more a backup to prevent fraud in an odometer reading.

If estimates suggest power consumed is 12-18,000 miles and the owner says they only drove 5,000 miles the smell of a rat will become apparent.

Next it will be ANPR cameras to determine approx mileage.

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Fredxx

But statistically insignificant when it comes to the number of vehicles on which taxation can be easily applied.

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alan_m

Which is why I have been saying that there needs to be a requirement for tamper-proof odometers in new cars.

The owner. With a check once a year during MOT or by the buyer when selling. It is to the owner's benefit to do this regularly, to avoid a large bill building up.

Alternatively, as new cars will all have access to the phone network to call the emergency services after a crash, they could phone their mileages in themselves, once a week or so. This also helps with the tamperproofing, as even if that were cracked, who is going to have the mileage changed each week or even each day?

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Steve Walker

But they are not electric and already pay fuel duty.

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Steve Walker

Is that any different to fuel duty?

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Steve Walker

But it doesn?t have to be collected that very expensive way when there are lots of EVs.

Irrelevant to how to collect that money.

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Joey

Given there are already 11,000 ANPR cameras currently logging car journeys it's hardly a complicated way, or even stupid.

Perhaps Australia doesn't have the same extensive ANPR network?

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Fredxx

Could be a bit more specific about the date?

Are you assuming that we'll continue with the scheme of putting a trillion pounds into net zero instead of spending the money on sensible things like coastal defences?

Bill

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williamwright

40 year old vehicles tend to do very low mileage.

Andy

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Vir Campestris

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