Raising revenue from electric cars

[bilou]

Is there any that don't ? Good luck to sell them then.

[Tim+]

No. Elsewhere in this group is the suggestion that EVs shouldn?t be able to charge from normal sockets without complicated ?electronic handshaking? so that EV electricity can be charged at a different rate to domestic electricity.

It ain?t gonna happen.;-)

Tim

[alan_m]

We do now have tolls with no toll booths. It's up to the driver to pay on-line or by phone in advance or within 24 hours. Automatic number plate recognition ties the payment to your car and a fine is issued to the car's keeper if the toll is not paid on time.

[Ian <$]

a) The technology to implement it is only just becoming viable b) People are only just coming around to accepting it c) The need to do it is only just happening.

[The Natural Philosopher]

There is no need for electric cars at all, except to keep German car workers in business and German car company shareholders in dividends

[Ian <$]

We do exactly that now with fuel tax...

Since when has taxation had to make sense?

[Ian <$]

Well quite, but we've long since lost that battle.

[Chris Hogg]

Except that by the time EV's become mandatory, it may be obvious that there never was a need for them, or any indeed other CO2 limiting measures for that matter.

[The Natural Philosopher]

By that time they will be building nuclear cars, instead :-)

[charles]

plenty of Electric cars made in other countries other than Germany.

[Ian <$]

Language Timothy!

Wide area ANPR vehicle charging is still pretty novel. London yes, more recently Birmingham, but it's only just catching on.

We're quite happy to let Google and Apple do it.

But that wouldn't have a environmental virtue-signalling angle, wouldn't be a nice little earner for crapita & co, and would likely get the incumbent pigs ejected from the trough quick-smart.

[Ian <$]

Oh sweet child. Since when has the incumbent government had anyting to do with setting real policy...

[Must. Stop. Arguing. With. Idiot.]

[williamwright]

That will never, ever be admitted. There will be one hell of a rearguard action.

Bill

[williamwright]

It would be ever such a nuisance for burglars.

Bill

[Fredxx]

Another lost argument. This is becoming a habit.

[Vir Campestris]

Just think what the wrong kind of government could do with that data...

Andy

[Fredxx]

The only fool here who consistently loses an argument uses words like 'bullshit' and 'paper bags' as their best counter-argument.

[Andrew]

Which can be essily altered by plugging a cheap device into the socket intended for maintenance.

Dealers do this on new cars so that the customer collects his purchase showing a mileage of exactly zero.

And who is going to 'read' every cars mileometer ?.

[Fredxx]

MOT time for one. Service at a dealer for another. Then just the occasional spot check where suitable penalties should stop 99% of the fraud.

[Andrew]

When I started driving there were about 13.5 million vehicles on the road. Now there are about 38.5 million.

This is a massive amount of tax that the government cannot afford to lose. The NHS costs £150 billion per year and 12 million pensioners chomp through the largest slice of this, on top of another £100+ billion in pensions.