Proof, if proof were needed....

Dave,

Those things are totally useless for plasterboard fixings.

As an experiment and just after those things were marketed (and after some persuasion from a friendly supplier who gave me some to try), I used two to fix a bog-roll holder to a paramount partition - and they couldn't even hold that on for more than a fortnight - the remainder (198 of them) went straight into the rubbish bin.

Tanner-'op

They can if you were to put some of the strain on the end feed pipes ie secure the pipes to a solid area and the end feeds act as two legs supporting some of the weight.

Using butterfly bolts is a last resort although even these are pulling on the plasterboard from the back.

Horses for courses. I use them a lot for fixing things like small pictures & mirrors - typically where only one fixing is required and no great weight or stress is involved. For that they are great, fast, easy & cheap. Not for rads though :-)

Dave,

I don't even use them for that - especially when you try to remove the fixing screw and the whole thing moves!

Whilst I have not used them since my first experience of the things, I have seen and repaired the damage that they can do to plasterboard - even on light-weight fittings and I personally tend to use the cavity toggle fixings whenever I can (but even they can cause the odd problems now and again).

Tanner-'op

You sound like a cowboy! Have you ever been on Homes From Hell ? I wouldn't go telling everyone about shoddy workmanship if you want business.

I don't think it was Dave who installed them in the first place. He was presumably being asked to repair it after it fell off.

You new here?

MBQ

Correct :-)

Which bit of "Been on the wall for over two years apparently - can't imagine how" wasn't clear?

In message , kcr writes

Looks like you didn't get the gist of his post like everyone else did