Weird layer of 'something' behind plasterboard?

Jun 11, 2013 6 Replies

Hi,



Please excuse the newbie question, but I've spent about two hours Googling for an answer to this, and I'm none the wiser...



I'm trying to fix some shelves to my kitchen wall. Should be simple? Possibly not -- I can't for the life of me figure out the wall construction.



My property is a flat, in the UK, built somewhere around 2000. Most of the interior walls in the flat are stud walls (plasterboard over metal studs, as far as I can tell). But the kitchen wall, whilst interior in terms of the building itself, forms a separating wall between my flat and my neighbour's flat. And this wall appears to have a different construction.



I initially assumed it would be a plasterboard stud wall, the same as the rest. But I got nowhere fast when trying to drive a plasterboard screw into it -- it went about 1/2in, then hit something hard, and would go in no further (and made a bit of a mess of the wall).



I investigated the wall's construction by taking the cover off a power outlet in that wall and having a look. From what I can tell, the wall is constructed of:



a) a thin layer of what I assume must be plaster b) behind that, a 1/2in layer of something that resembles plasterboard (and is soft enough to screw into easily enough) c) behind that, a 1/2in layer of something that *looks* the same as the plasterboard, but is much harder (and cannot easily be screwed into) d) behind that, there appears to be a gap/cavity



So, what I can't work out is: what the hell is layer (c)? And, more importantly, what sort of fixings can/should I use to fix shelves to this wall?



Any advice would be appreciated.



Cheers,



Dave


Gyproc Fireline board? Never seen the actual product though.

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Modern flats have sound/fireproof walls. Many are specialist material/construction to try to save weight. See if you can drill a hole in the hard stuff and use some sort of hollow fixing. (Eg toggle bolt) I wouldn't put anything heavy on your shelf.

Thanks for the advice.

I have used (or attempted to use) a variety of hollow fixings before in the past, but I don't think any that I've seen before would handle the depth of this double-layer of board.

I'm tempted to try to use some long masonry screws, assuming that the 'hard' board can grip them sufficiently well.

It might be a cement composition board. Whatever it is it has to be cuttable & drillable. A masonry bit would probably be needed. if its on a metal frame your wall might be very shallow.

NT

drillable. A masonry bit would probably be needed. if its on a metal frame your wall might be very shallow.

It certainly is drillable, as it turns out.

I've ended up using thermal block screws (like these:

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Seems to hold pretty firm.

I'll let you know if the shelves fall down.

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