The travelers aren't shy of killing each other anyway as a quick perusal as of the Irish press shows when whole areas are locked down by large numbers of Garda for a traveller funeral or wedding where old scores between different families are settled. The petty crime we see from the ones that clog up laybys here are the lower order ones. The higher up ones have moved into art theft ,ivory selling , money laundering on an International scale in recent years.
G.Harman
And that's the thing ... most of us *have* come across 'antisocial' people and know that 'anti sociability can stretch pretty far, like knocking you out or over or worse, simply because they felt like it or because they wanted your phone or trainers.
It is.
I was talking to a neighbour yesterday who told me she was mugged a while back by someone who she believed ran into a hose nearby that is regularly being visited by the Police for all sorts of reasons.
They stand out in the area at not being typical of the attitudes and social integration of the vast majority. It's just a matter of time therefore before we (those who do try to be good citizens) no longer have to suffer their antisocial behaviour but have to pay for their keep instead (more than we are paying for it now no doubt).
Most people CGAF if they chose to live like that (or any way that was different (but disruptive) from 'the norm'), just that the same people would still like to enjoy their own lives unmolested.
What was that film where all such antisocial people were placed on their own island and basically left to get on with it? IMHO, they all deserve each other [1].
Cheers, T i m
[1] We aren't talking about people who make the odd mistake or who, when given the chance, turn themselves around, we are talking about those people who have no respect for anyone else and who repeatedly demonstrate that in a way that often ruins the lives of others.
I would have thought that the Brexit vote might have given you a clue as to the level of bigotry out there!
There seem to be quite a lot around who are overjoyed to find an excuse to band together, get drunk, and go and beat and maim a few members of some minority or other. I gather it is quite dangerous being a goth, as harmless activity as any.
Isnt that more to do with how humans are generally speaking ?.
That does depend on where you are 'being a goth'
True. You cant beat a remoaner or a labour voter ors a muslim or an african for sheer bigotry.
I thinbk they belong to 'hope not hate'
I gather it is quite dangerous being a goth, as
It was goths who slashed my tyres.
What makes yuo think that ? And can yuo really tell an emo from a goth from darkwave to cybergoth from a metalhead to a stampunk, most can;t tell a goth from a punk.
The Equality Act applies to all groups except white middle class hard-working men. Therefore it discriminates against that group.
Bill
Yes because the other attributes don't matter at all, but culture matters a lot because it determines how someone behaves.
Bill
I don't find it that easy Dave. Faced with the prospect of bumming a bloke I don't seem to get an erection. Maybe you don't have that problem?
Bill
Actually I have a little wicker basket on my bike that is very gay. And I can do a twirl. And I'm good with colours. But try as I might I can't get an erection when
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Bill
So why leave it out ? Surely how someone behaves is more important than their skin colour.
Isn't that why old geezers get viagra. Where theres a bill there's a way of so the saying goes.
That is totally untrue. It may be that such people don't often get provably discriminated against, but, if the do, they can fully rely on the Equality Act to protect them.[1] Next you'll be saying it doesn't protect billionaires against discrimination, because none of them have yet brought a case.
[1] Actually quite a few people have been prosecuted for racist attacks against white people.
Yet racist sexual attacks against white girls are ignored because for some it's too delicate and might upset the race relations of the area. This is also one reason why we have such problems with youth mostly black on black knife crimes. And then there;s the cover-ups a lies around the jimy savelie case amounts others were peole are protected not because iof race or skin colour but because oif school ties and breeding and not wanting to upset your so called superiors.
'mainstream'. I considered the Tims pretty mainstream - like me even (no offence Tims)
yep, some people eh, reading and all that ;-)
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It could only happen to you!
I find that difficult to believe, goths tend to have better things to do. How do you know they were goths ?
Worse, it happened because in general I *like* goths and smiled at them.
BUt I guess driving a little 4x4 freelander and smiling at goths is an unpardonable offence.
Leftist green violence
If I'm one of the Tim's in question then none taken. ;-)
The point is I try to see the best in everyone and am often willing to give people more than one chance (depending etc) but there are just some people that were it not for the rules of ... and that only seem to apply to ... civilised people, simply wouldn't last that long, just as they wouldn't if they were *actually* animals (rather than just behaving like them).
So take enough without giving back, no matter how much you say you 'love yer old Mum' and someone somewhere is likely to say 'enough is enough' and if the system can't contain it, take action themselves (often to the satisfaction of other 'good' but less proactive people (including the Feds)).
So it's difficult to know what's rights when 'if you aren't part of the solution you are part of the problem' seems to be the only real thing that works?
Years ago a mate caught a couple of lads (red handed) nicking tools from his garage and because of the type of people they were , the location and the situation he gave them both 'a good hiding'. It turns out that might have been the (morally) right thing to do because they didn't come back and so all the others who had also suffered the loss or damage to their property were also grateful.
Of course, he should have reported them to the Police, *maybe* if they were found and taken and *maybe* taken to court they *might* have been given a custodial sentence (where they would have learned more criminal skills) but the chances they would have been let off and back out to carry on where they left off.
*Some people* only understand one language, be it money or violence etc and for them often the only way is to fight fire with fire, or let them have a taste of their own medicine?Living on our feet rather than dying on our knees is the very spirit of how we and many other countries are dealing with another form (if not the definition of) of 'antisocial behaviour' and that's terrorism.
Cheers, T i m
you can't like goths and smile at them ;-)
Goths aren't intrested in cars much realy unless they are hearses they rarely give a shit.
So when did they slash your tyes and how did you know it was goths ?
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