"[FLORIDA] Kimberly, a 6-year-old in the custody of her grandparents, is
facing eviction by local law enforcement because her grandparents live in a
retirement community. The child has lived in the house her whole life, as
her mother is unable to care for her due to unspecified drug problems. Now
authorities plan to remove the girl from the only home she's ever known and
place her in foster care with strangers due to a homeowners association
I agree. 'God's Waiting Room' (Florida) is no place for a child!
Florida chose to develop itself via planned communities and HOAs, in
order to shift most of the costs of infrastructure development
initially onto the developer who builds the community, then assumed by
the homeowners who take on the debt not only for the home they buy,
but for the development's costs, too. That's the primary purpose of
the HOA - to collect funds for the debt payments and to keep their
community maintained. Making up additional rules is what they get to
do to make their community more appealing for those who believe rules
are for everyone else. If the citizens of that state keep bitching
about their big bad HOAs, they should vote to implement an income tax
on themselves, so the state will be able to fund infrastructure,
instead of forcing developers and homeowners to assume the debt via
With regards to this particular case: the couple moved into a
seniors-only community and understood that when they purchased their
home. The community doesn't have to change because their life did.
Since they've had no luck selling it, they should see if the HOA rules
permit homes to be rented. If they can, just rent it out and move into
an apartment with the kid.
It sounds like they DID understand that when they bought the home, and the
child ended up with them afterward. But none of that matters. I would've
liked to know the real reason the association wants them out. It's more than
just rules. Has the child caused problems? Many old people have nothing
better to do than complain about nothing at all.
I lived in an apartment complex for a couple of years, and one of the rules
stated that cars without license plates would be considered abandoned or
evil or some such thing. I sold my car, and on the day the buyer was picking
it up, I removed the plates. Within 15 minutes, the police were at my door.
I explained the situation. He said the police got 15-20 calls a week from
aimless, nosy old people in the complex. He said "Have a good day" and left.
I called the rental office. The nice lady said she had nothing to do with
Nosy old people used to sit at the front door of my building in nice weather
and inquire about the groceries I was carrying in or the trash I was
carrying out. This may be what the couple in Florida is up against, and if
so, the judge will hopefully spank the appropriate parties.
Wow, 15 minutes. Wish that TSA worked as efficiently. They
should hire some nosy retirees. We could cut down on
I got a "unregistered vehicle" letter from the trailer park
one time, the license plate was laying on the dash board,
not screwed to the front. Oh, well.
Seniors move into these communities because most can't take the noise of
children running around. Don't condemn them because one day you'll be old
and you won't want to be disturbed or annoyed. Regardless of when the child
came into the development, HOA rules, especially in Florida do not allow
anyone under the age of 21. Adult communities can lose their status if there
are underage people living there.
Too bad her grandparents put their comfort first, isn't it? They made
a choice, reinforced over years, to put their granddaughter's future
at risk. She pays the penalty for having lousy parents and grandparents.
Knowing several foster parents, there's a good chance she could end up
being raised by more responsible adults. You know - the kind who put
the child's interests ahead of their own. Unlike granny and gramps in
The article says they've been trying to sell the home. Unless I missed
something, it didn't say WHEN they began trying. Early in the six years?
Without that information, this discussion is based purely on conjecture. I
realize conjecture is the fuel on which newsgroups run, but still, it's best
to avoid it whenever possible.
It should have been at most 30 days after the child moved in. Actually, if
they knew they were keeping the child they should have started selling
immediately (especially 6 years ago the houses were bringing big money). The
intentionally violated the rules and I have no pity on them. I'm sorry for
the 6 year old that her mother is a junkie but that doesn't excuse the fact
the grandparents were 1000 percent wrong.
There is a time period that kids (or others under 55) are allowed, usually
some weeks or months. They may have been trying to come up with a solution
or were figuring it was a temporary situation.
Yes, they are breaking the rules, but if it was my granddaughter, I'd be
keeping here too.
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