OT: Speeding yobs!

Are they?..

AIUI, it's more to do with the transmission gearing rather than been speed limited.

Things like the Deutz Fahr Agrotron 265 move along quite nicely at over 35 mph ... doesn't half terrify the locals though :-)

Pop along to any agricultural show over the summer and you'll find others that offer reasonable road speeds. And some monsters that'll do even more ...

DN

There's a limit for vehicles with non mechanical steering but I don't think there's a blanket limit on tractors, the Fast Traks round here tootle along in the 40's with a trailer on them. Even the big rubber tracked caterpillers ain't slow.

On Sun, 30 May 2004 09:17:00 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice" strung together this:

That's a new one. They're not purposely limited, it's just that most won't go any faster. I've been in tractors that have topped 30mph!

I now can't find the reference, it was somewhere in the HMC&E site relating to the qualification to use red diesel on the public highway. The "search" only pulls up stupid press releases nothing from the actual site content.

Found a few other references (that might be out of date) refering to "tractors" and 20mph and "fast tractors" 40mph.

How ever in the context of this thread the techincalities of a tractors maximum speed isn't relevant, they are slow.

Fine when its the tractor on its own but when the moron driving it is also towing a heavy trailer at this speed, which said trailer is bouncing all over the road it can be a terryfing experience when coming towards you.

Paul Mc Cann

In message , James Hart writes

what is non mechanical steering???

For example a hydraulic ram controlled via a non mechanical linked control valve [1] or any fully track mounted vehicle (Bulldozer, large digging machine, tank etc.).

It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "dave @ stejonda" saying something like:

I'd presume hydraulic, where rams actually steer, there being no direct mechanical connection between the steering wheel and the front wheels of the tractor.

Either that or a bit of rope. :)

Just shows we need the Isle of Man/Nevada/Yokohama/several other places system - shut a road somewhere about once a month, set a one way system and set people off at one minute intervals to enjoy themselves. Yes some will terminate themselves, as they do on the IoM TT spectator sessions, but that's part of the thrill (for them).

For one moment there, I thought you were talking about a pyrotechnic solution to speeding...

I seem to remember that there used to be a speed limit of 20mph, possibly on agricultural tractors, but certainly on trailers without a sprung suspension.

Steve W

One of the ADI theory test questions that I've just been practicing on covers the distance part - less than 200yds.

The height part is something that someone else mentioned - something about lamposts less than a certain height (21ft?) not being classed as streetlighting, but as footway lighting and therefore not affecting speed limits.

Steve W

Ah, the fells. If there were quite a few pebbles on the road, obviously, not hidden but in plain view, that might help. Also, on bends, a "mud on road" sign might help.

Try cross-posting this to uk.rec.motorcycles for a non-partisan and helpful discussion (darfc).

J.B.

Except that anti-car bigot councillors keep changing them downwards, without adequate notice.

Perhaps there's some way you could persuade local councillors to look at them?

Or adequate reason apart from their hatred of private transport.

Lets face it, cameras don't even need to have warning signs, the speed limit sign has told road users what the maximum speed is - if people can't read or obey the 'rules of the road' then WTF should any driver get a final warning ?

So what you are implying is, those who get caught should not be driving anyway because they are unable to drive 'with due care and attention' (not paying attention to displayed instructions whilst driving) !..

All street signage changes go up to the DoT for approval, I've heard of cases were the DoT have made changes as the original proposals were unlawful.

If you had cared to read enough of the thread, you might have seen that the context was that of other numpties standing on their brakes in front of posters to this group, causing unnecessary danger. They may in some cases even have been travelling at a perfectly legal speed, but on spying the camera obviously have some kind of panic attack and think it necessary to get down to 40 (typically in a 50/60) or 30 (in a 40). I was simply suggesting that it is not unreasonable for the camera itself to carry, or be close by, a repeater sign. Numpty problem solved.

Because the speed limits are set so low that one has to ignore them to get from A to B in a financially viable time.

We have the best motorways but lowest motorway limits in Europe. Most of our system could easily support fully derestricted limits as in Germany.