OT: So, we're all old and miserable, and trends change, but....

I disagree.

Can you prove what you say?

Are you so naive as to believe that a troll needs to prove anything?

You?re only adding more ?noise? to the group and diluting what little signal there is left.

Tim

No point. I'm sure you'll find a way to lie about any figures published anyway. Taking a clue from your heros Bojo and Trump.

Wodney doesn't need to. As I posted it. And can confirm he understood it, as I'd guess did everyone else reading this - except you.

That's nice,

I, on the other hand, was answering a point about waiting times (and about nothing else).

It's all still there above (see the post marked by asterisks)!

Waiting times, even for local GP appointments in the UK, certainly have been affected by the pandemic. I accept that that may not be so apparent from 10,000 miles away.

Sorry.

So you aren't going to produce the figures you said are "very easy to find".

Fair enough.

OK. Tell me first which figures on NHS waiting lists over the years you would trust. I'll then find a link to them. Since that is obviously beyond your ability. Or are you simply too lazy?

You produce what you want to produce.

Thanks for confirming you prefer the head in the sand approach.

It isn't up to me to tell you how to pursue your case.

Is that your way of saying you can't back up your claim with evidence?

And not for the first time.

I'm not pursuing any case. You are the one who disputed what everyone in the UK knows by their experience or those of friends or family to be the case.

Our Dave is just an ace bullshitter.

In that case, you are free to stop arguing.

That's good news, isn't it? :-)

I do realise you have the memory span of a goldfish, and wish to contradict any facts on here for your own political purposes. But this group isn't controlled by the like of Putin. If you wish to propagate your lies, prepare to be shown up as a fool.

But at least you'll get support from Streater who doesn't like inconvenient facts either.

All I have done is to invite you to support your own case (whatever it may be) or not to support your own case, if that's what you prefer.

It's completely up to you which of those two you choose. No-one can choose for you.

My guess at the moment is that you will do neither of the things mentioned above, ie, you won't post evidence to support your case and you won't stop arguing.

You will simply carry on with more of the above.

I asked you what statistics on NHS waiting lists you'd accept as being accurate.

But no surprise you declined to answer.

Likely after extensive searching to find figures to agree with your lies.

Yes you did.

And I said that you must produce whatever you wish to produce. It's up to you, not to me.

That is a lie.

I said that you must / may produce what you want to produce.

That was an answer. Perhaps not the one you wanted, but most definitely an answer.

You're the one telling porkies. There's one a few lines above this, for a start.