OT: So, we're all old and miserable, and trends change, but....

Feb 16, 2022 Last reply: 4 years ago 54 Replies
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Operations for many routine procedures were effectively suspended for the duration of the pandemic (and to be fair, one can understand why).

The local GP practice here has only just re-opened its doors and allowed callers inside. It has been normal for GP consultations to be done by telephone appointment.

Good try. You obviously follow the Bojo statistical model.

Now look at waiting times for treatment for serious conditions post 2010 until before Covid. Very easy to find.

That is not my impression at all.

The question ("Wonder what...") was about the length of NHS waiting times (for treatment) as they are *now* without any qualification by reference to the past. That necessarily refers to and includes all the delay engendered by the pandemic.

Are you claiming that surgical procedures have NOT been delayed due to Covid? That would be big news to many people of my generation.

As an aside, I'm just about to have by first blood test since 2019.

Please explain what you are talking about, if necessary, with reference to reliable independent statistics on NHS spending year by year.

I thought even you would be able to find official statistics for those?

You're the one arguing about them. The onus is on you to justify your claims. Not on me.

I disagree.

Can you prove what you say?

Are you so naive as to believe that a troll needs to prove anything?

You?re only adding more ?noise? to the group and diluting what little signal there is left.

Tim

No point. I'm sure you'll find a way to lie about any figures published anyway. Taking a clue from your heros Bojo and Trump.

Wodney doesn't need to. As I posted it. And can confirm he understood it, as I'd guess did everyone else reading this - except you.

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*Were* you, indeed?

That's nice,

I, on the other hand, was answering a point about waiting times (and about nothing else).

It's all still there above (see the post marked by asterisks)!

<sigh>

Waiting times, even for local GP appointments in the UK, certainly have been affected by the pandemic. I accept that that may not be so apparent from 10,000 miles away.

So you aren't going to produce the figures you said are "very easy to find".

Fair enough.

OK. Tell me first which figures on NHS waiting lists over the years you would trust. I'll then find a link to them. Since that is obviously beyond your ability. Or are you simply too lazy?

You produce what you want to produce.

Thanks for confirming you prefer the head in the sand approach.

It isn't up to me to tell you how to pursue your case.

Is that your way of saying you can't back up your claim with evidence?

And not for the first time.

I'm not pursuing any case. You are the one who disputed what everyone in the UK knows by their experience or those of friends or family to be the case.

Our Dave is just an ace bullshitter.

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