OT: New driving laws and cyclists etc

Mar 31, 2022 Last reply: 4 years ago 230 Replies

I doubt the cyclist's sense of entitlement and sense of astonishment when nicked ave changed.

Isn't that private land?

The misdemeanours of others do not excuse bad behaviour by oneself. Does somebody else stealing make theft by yourself acceptable? How about murder? Reckless, inconsiderate motoring does not excuse reckless, inconsiderate cycling.

Do victims of burglary also have to lodge claims of malfeasance in public office at the local council in order to make their burglary complaint valid?

It's a strawman to observe that an offence by A does not justify an offence by B?

Is that *it*?

Is that your "point"?

Hard to say.

You've snipped all the original context.

Not that it matters. THIS sub-thread is about cyclists using allegations against others in order to try to excuse their own offences.

Yes, you have. In this very sub-thread. You're about to try to do it again:

Neither was I.

On what basis is it hypocrisy to point out that cyclists frequently break the law and that they are not justified in doing so by offences having been committed by other people?

You're just away with the mixer* now, lad.

I have never defended lawbreaking by anyone and certainly not in this thread.

You are making that up.

[* A good old Liverpool saying, meaning "incoherent", "lacking in logic", etc.]

Pet, this tread is about cyclists. Feel free to start one about 'New driving laws and motorists, etc'

But then you'd not be able to change that away from cyclists and the law to drivers and the law, in the same way. As hypocrites do...

Ah - right. Only being killed matters. Injury totally unimportant.

Your usual playground logic. 'I saw a big boy do something I know to be wrong, therefore it is perfectly OK for me to do the same.

Bloody hypocrite. To quote yourself.

But Dave, that is your logic, your strawman. It isn't anything I said. I was just commenting on your general bigotry about cyclists.

If one is interested, one can look at how bigotry about cyclist criminality arose in a thread where the OP is about a woman flinging herself into a ditch in order to avoid Mr Toad in his Land Rover. Mr Toad being duly convicted, and there being no suggestion of criminal behaviour by the cyclists involved.

I don't suffer from cyclist bigotry. Only dislike those who disregard the laws. And the same ones who bleat on about banning cars.

Ie, like you.

[in response to something relevant, one hopes:]

Let me append my support for that.

+1.

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