OT Migration and housing shortage.

I'd say it's generous for any period for an "estate built".

Quite. And many of the late Victorian terraces of around 1,100 square feet in London were occupied from time to time by more than a nuclear family.

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Robin
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You'll never see new flats advertised. They are now luxury apartments.

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Dave Plowman (News)

You don't own it, you rent it.

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Tim Streater

Visited yes. I was surprised how good they were on the inside, once past the ugly exterior. I didn't think they were insulated at all, it certainly wasn't the norm at that time.

NT

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tabbypurr

Poor designed, badly constructed, poorly maintained and most of all inhabited by the wrong people.

Refurbished high rises are amongst the most popular flats in some cities

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bert

no

Poor design, not by the standards of the time. High rises are harder to do up later than low. Construction issues... in some cases sure. In the 50s some low rise wasn't great either.

The last 2 you mention came after they were built, and were the main problem. That's a problem with management, not a problem with the building.

like Grenfell.

NT

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tabbypurr

I have just completed some new builds in Doncaster.

One of the buyers was from West Yorkshire and another from Lincolnshire. I think this immigration watch might be onto something!

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ARW

Erm, I know of hundreds of such places in Doncaster.

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ARW

I know loads of places like that here in East Kent.

One furniture shop had half a dozen flats above it, all occupied by yound women. OK, they went home elsewhere at night...

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Bob Eager

Think it applies to most cities unless the high street has been replaced totally at some time.

Off the top of my head I can't think of any London high street which doesn't have at least some housing above shops. Although larger stores may have taken it over for their own use as offices, etc.

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Dave Plowman (News)

Where, for example?

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Dave Plowman (News)

What, four or five stories above the furniture shop?

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Tim Streater

Three stories. Two for the shop, one for the flats. Very small flats (one bed, one recep/kitchen, one bath/loo. Large store, so enough area for several flats on the same level.

And before you ask, a (male) colleague of mine briefly rented one...!

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Bob Eager

Oh, I've seen those too. Mainly in London, although come to think about it there are about four buildings like that about half a mile away.

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Bob Eager

Well, perhaps we need a lot more of them. I've driven through numerous town centres built in the 50s or later. These seem to be built on the principle that the ground floor is the shop and above that is a flat for the shop-owner. Little or no life in those town centres at night, and a missed opportunity in terms of compact housing.

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Tim Streater

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