OT:I really, really want to like Linux ...

While NT is talking out of his arse, as per usual.

So its only natural that you'd be falling over yourself to agree with him.

They even printed it on the front of the box and the manual; just so that people like yourself and NT could be shown up for the idiots that you are, 30 years later. In fact its just 4 days past your anniversary. So that's 30 years of looking stupid.

Good old Bill strikes again !

michael adams

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HTH.

Cheers, T i m

As opposed to living in a fantasy (or is it a nightmare?), I'll stay where I am thanks.

Cheers, T i m

Maybe there's an argument that we should revert to a separately supplied networking infrastructure ? Twice as much hacking needed ...

My first PC OS was Apple Basic (on an ITT 2020) ... for me, Win95 was a quantum shift in what we now call desktop OSes. I would argue that everything since - NT4/2000/XP/Vista/7/10 - has merely been an incremental upgrade.

I'd also argue that MS nailed it with XP - even now, it's not a bad looking or working OS - over 15 years since it's release.

For me, the best thing about WfW was you could zip up the *entire* windows directory. Meaning it was a piece of piss to test installations.

What do you expect when they are living in a basement, cut off from the real world. ;-)

Hehe.

I built my first PC (IBM PC XT clone) at home and the only OS available that had any real support was MSDOS, so that's what I used.

I also bought a PC Magazine that came with a CD ROM with 'Hundreds of programs and games' on but no one I knew of had a CD ROM drive ... so I eventually bought one myself, an external Goldstar 2X reader that used caddies. Over 600MB of stuff when I only had an 80MB HDD at the time (Seagate SCSI)! ;-)

When I got my first copy of Windows it was like it opened up the PC, being able to have two things 'running' at once (without having to have any fancy RAM boards or running Concurrent DOS / whatever).

Mates had all sorts of computers and consoles at the time but few had a 'PC' and none had a Mac or ran Linux.

Some now have Macs but those who do usually only use them as web terminals and for managing their Music / iPods etc. Oh, a couple use them for ePOS terminals (one, an iMac I replaced the HDD for him when he bought it second hand to experience one of the reasons my mate in the PC shop chose not to support them as you have to have a 'special' HDD or add an interface board or frig the fan with a jumper or somesuch to stop it overheating or blowing full power all the time). ;-(

Cheers, T i m

Bless!

That was windows 2.10

Bingo. And they wouldn't make money, if it didn't work or wasn't wanted, (like the Zune or Windows Vista / 8 etc).

Yup ... people who don't live in a basement at their Moms and who only want an appliance to let them do what they want. I know (and have seen) plenty of people who will buy a new PC just because the old one has a software issue.

;-)

The funny thing is, I think 'most people' (so certainly not the Linux geeks specifically) just buy a 'new PC' and it happens to come with Windows. If it's got 'the latest version' they think that's good and as long as they can still use it like they did the previous one they don't care about anything else. They aren't and never were interested in the OS, it is a means to an end.

I can count the number of times I've asked 'What version of Windows are you running' for them to answer 'Word' or 'Office' or something similar?

Quite. ;-)

I'm wondering though how many people actually buy say Windows 10 to upgrade their existing PC's (not knowing you can *still* upgrade W7/8 to 10 using the same licence?) over just buying a new PC that comes with it?

I upgraded a spare W7 machine to 10 because I wanted to see what it was like (and get used to it to support others) but the Mrs and daughter are still happily using W7 and I can't see them changing any time soon?

As you say, you can't employ ~125,000 people and do a lot of philanthropic work if you don't make money.

Cheers, T i m

This is what I love about these arrogant old left brainer Linux geeks, they simply won't admit when they are wrong.

Although to be fair, it's not so much that they won't admit, they can't, they aren't wired like 'most people' and so actually *believe* they are right when it's blatantly obvious to everyone that they are aren't (even when presented with hard evidence against them)!

I should know what it is, I ran it!

Cheers, T i m

Is that what is says on the box in the picture ?

Because to me at least, it looks like it definitely says " Microsoft Windows/218 "

Or are you saying they deliberately printed a few boxes with the wrong description on them 30 years ago, simply so as to make the likes of you and NT deliberately look stupid ?

michael adams

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That's not me talking; that's the likes of Bill Gates. And why he's a multi-billionaire.

I'm not sure he's in need of any lessons from somebody who's clearly as embittered as you are; living in your hovel in the back of beyond.

michael adams

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Ooops ! Or to look even more stupid why not type 218 instead of 286 ?

michael adams

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My experience of people calling others left brainers tend to have a myopic and blinkered outlook themselves, but hey.

It's trivial to find that Windows/286 existed and a marketing name for Windows 2.10 and 2.11

Oooo, slightly confused re to whom you are replying eh fanatic Brexiteer?

And it's even more trivial to simply accept that when a right brainer says they used 'Windows 286' to take it as fact.

Unless you are a left brainer of course and then you simply can't (as has been proven here). ;-(

Cheers, T i m

In message , T i m writes in response to

The merge went well. The restore started and stopped almost immediately.

W10 sees the internal HD in the Brennan and reports that it is NTFS. The Brennan itself says it is FAT32, dmesg indicates some EXT-4 files are in use.

Life is too short.

Its owner and I have composed an email to the manufacturer suggesting they send a returns label.

Very interesting I'm sure.

But I can't quite see what relevance this has, to what I posted.

In other words, both NT and Turnip are incapable of performing trivial tasks.

Hold the Front Page.

While you're at it, are there any other startling insights you'd like to share ?

michael adams

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I'm not so fanatical about Brexit I feel the need to mention it in a thread about Windows/286. I do however feel the need to rebuke abusive posts with reference to brains.

A right brainer is alleged to have more fanciful, imaginative thoughts. So I have no idea what your argument is.

Apologies, it wasn't directed to you, but someone else who is quick abuse others rather than simply look things up and share.

LOL!

Cheers, T i m