OT: Exercise

[GB]

You run ultra marathons?

[www.GymRatZ.co.uk]

"Calories consumed" as quoted by any exercise machine it as vague as the obesity scale referenced against height and weight, also the maximum heart rate against age etc etc. It's OK as a rough guide and for motivation/target etc.

If getting "fitter" is your goal forget calories expended and work on how long it takes you to walk the same route and increase your speed as your fitness increases.

Is your goal simply getting fitter or fat loss? If the latter there's the modifications to dietary habits and also incorporating resistance training into the regime.

Diet and "running" alone consume muscle mass to drop metabolism to a state of equilibrium based on calorie intake & energy expenditure so you might well lose "weight" but with declining muscle you end up being "skinny fat"

HTH Pete

[Huge]

If you want to lose weight, you have to create a caloric deficit. And you cannot (as you have discovered) do that solely with exercise, unless you're going to become a coal miner.

Exercise is good for you in other ways, but it isn't going to make you lose weight. Sadly, you have to diet. End of.

Sorry.

[Tim Watts]

That's the problem - I'm too round. I can manage eating better or even a

5:2 fasting diet ordinarily - but my life is basically doomed with stupidity and stress from all sides (and has been for about 10 years) - work being a factor and fixing a house being another.

So I find it impossible to sustain any form of diet - give it a week, some shit happens, I eat badly (either due to lack of time or comfort) and drink beer.

Ideas?

[Bill Wright]

It doesn't work for me. The only thing that works is not having puddings. That works quickly.

Bill

[Dave Plowman (News)]

It's actually quite funny how some drinkers don't consider wine alcohol. That in some way alcohol in wine does less damage than any other if you drink too much.

[charles]

but, it's part of the "mediterranian diet" which is supposed to be so good for us ;-)

[Max Demian]

Like pizza and pasta.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Yup. A small glass of red wine is meant to be good for you. So a couple of bottles a day must be even better. ;-)

[charles]

that's called "homeopathy">

[David]

Try Low Carbohydrate High Fat (LCHF). It works for some (me included).

There are two parts:

(1) High Fat; this is counter intuitive but tends to make you feel full sooner and helps reduce the amount you eat.

(2) Low Carbohydrates; for most people carbohydrates are addictive because of the "boom/bust" cycle in your blood sugar levels. When you eat carbohydrates your blood glucose goes up. There is only a limited amount that you can store in blood and muscle so the body (insulin) flushes the rest out to your fat cells. Your blood glucose then goes down and you are hungry again. Rinse, repeat, maintain/increase fat.

So eat well (it is just as easy to prepare high fat food) and sip a bit more when drinking beer.

As others have said, exercise makes you fitter (and helps your muscles work with insulin to replace glucose stores) but it doesn't make you thinner unless you are an elite athlete burning many thousands of calories a day.

I am T2 diabetic and I blame the onset on a life long sugar addiction and a lot of work related stress. As my Lady Wife says, my knee jerk reaction to stress was Mars Bars and Special Brew.

I now have both my weight and BG under control and eat LCHF as a matter of course.

Some tips to possibly help:

(1) I start the day with strong coffee, double cream and butter. This gives me a buffer whilst I get going and can see me through to about 15:00 or later without hunger pangs. Easy to do (although many can't hack the richness first thing in the morning). Also an emergency option at work if you have access to a fridge and coffee making kit.

(2) Eggs, eggs, eggs. Scrambled eggs or an omelet for breakfast are fast and easy. Add grated cheese for more fat and more satiation.

(3) Full English without the bread, potatoes and beans is also magic.

(4) Full fat everything!

(5) Avoid anything based on grains (bread, pasta, pizza, rice) or made from a root vegetable (potatoes, swede, parsnips etc.). One honourable exception is the Lidl protein roll which is under 10 grams of carbohydrate per 100 grams and is very filling. Good for sandwiches with cheese and/or ham filling. Real butter, of course.

There is a load of information on the Internet.

HTH

Dave R

[Martin Brown]

If you actually want to lose weight in a sustainable way then the 5+2 diet is about as good as any. Fast for two days and eat normally for the others - on and cut down on the alcohol and soft drinks (none at all on the fasting days - they are very high energy content).

No. Homeopathy would be drinking some water from a glass that three years ago had some wine in and has been washed daily ever since.

All homeopathic practitioners should be forced to live for 3 years in a malaria infested swamp protected only by their own quack medication. Any survivors would then be permitted to practice homeopathy.

The dose makes the poison.

[newshound]

+1

And the exercise of calculating the calories on those days soon shows you what to avoid. I was amazed to find out how much sugar there is in granola, for example.

Drinking sugar-free ginger beer ATM, that's actually pretty low.

[Max Demian]

I've found a 4:3 successful. I limit my intake to 600 kcal on Monday, Wednesday and Friday and eat (and drink) as much as I want on the other days. My weight went from 14st to 12st in a year, and has since stabilised at 11st 8lb to 12st.

I've found that frosted flakes have exactly the same calorie content as plain corn flakes of the same brand, so I eat the former without any sugar. (Presumably the plain corn flakes have the sugar baked into the flakes where frosted flakes have it all on the outside. Frosted flakes have rather more sugar and less starch, so the carbohydrate content is the same.)

[GB]

ALL cereals have pretty much the same calories per 100gms, as they are all carbohydrates. The exceptions are some have more bran (cellulose that you may be unable to digest) and some have more fat (more calories than carbohydrate per gram).

Sugar is denser than the toasted starch in cornflakes, so you may get slightly fewer flakes with the frosted ones. But the chief difference is that the sugar gets into your bloodstream very quickly, as a spike that may not be good for you. And it gets cleared out quickly by the insulin, and you feel flat a couple of hours later.

[Johnny B Good]

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That's the heart of the matter with *all* medications. In essence, every medicine is a poison of one sort or another. It's just the prescribing of it at sub lethal dosages which makes it "a medicine". With some medications, the therapeutic dosage level can be dangerously close to the lethal dosage level, perhaps even as high as 33% of the LDL in some cases.

It's this fact that leads to the homoeopathy theory that 'less is more'. However, with dilutions as extreme as one part in a billion, the efficaciousness of such homoeopathic treatments comes down to the placebo effect. Essentially the power of suggestion which is, more ethically speaking, best administered as a hypnotic therapy where the 'medicine' is declared up front to the patient as merely an hypnotic aid with no chemically active ingredients whatsoever.

Some interesting clinical trials of 'Placebo Treatments' have revealed the efficaciousness of placebo pills even when the patient has been completely and fully appraised of the fact that they've been prescribed nothing more medicinal than a totally harmless coloured 'sugar pill'.

The "Power of Mind Over Matter" in regard of the treatment of various ailments is being considered seriously by the medical profession, not least on account of the way the placebo effect has been proven to demonstrably skew clinical trials of new 'Wonder Drugs'.

The use of placebos in medical practice has raised the question of ethics, leading to its use as a legitimate 'prop' in hypnotherapy with full disclosure to the patient as the means by which to fully address the ethical question raised in utilising the placebo effect as a legitimate medical treatment.

[Bob Eager]

Yup. I'm on colchicine - intermittently.

The details on that say that if an overdose is taken, the only treatment is 'support' in hospital. It goes on to say that survivors may develop alopecia,

I think the phrase they use is that it has a 'narrow therepeutic window'.

[spuorgelgoog]

My standard diet dinner was fish in butter sauce (they come in packs of 4 in the freezer section) on a big bowl of steamed vegs.

Owain

[Max Demian]

Yebbut I don't have to add sugar to make it taste sweet.

There's nothing the matter with my glucose regulation.