OT: Bbc oddity?

Apr 07, 2026 Last reply: 3 months ago 44 Replies
0848 on today’s (7th April) Breakfast programme on Bbc1.

The subject is the popularity of early-morning coffee raves in York. The scene is of people dancing and enjoying themselves.



Part way through the story the scene changes for a few seconds to that of a personable lady drummer.



The only odd things are that the original scenes appear to feature what sounds like a disco set-up although this wasn’t shown, but in the scene with the drummer, the lighting, background, and the way the ravers are dressed are completely different.



It’s almost as if the drummer scene has been inserted into the original footage. But what could the reason be?



Presumably to increase engagement. The truth of what are saying is less significant than how many people you say it to.

In today's post modern world, truth is no longer an issue Only what people can be made to believe.

I mean just look at Trump...

Is he just a rather sloppy AI?

Let's face it, there are convincing ones out there

A reference to Riot Women ?

If the Wikipedia article is anything to go by, she doesn’t fit that particular demographic…

In message snipped-for-privacy@mid.individual.net>, Spike snipped-for-privacy@mail.com writes

It looked ok to me. It's organised by Rant and Ramble.

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It sounds awful - all these touchy feely social people .

It seems that you have to ohl tickets . Tough if you just want a quiet pint after a hard night shift .

Brian

I haven't seen the programme, but it's perfectly reasonable to show more than one coffee rave on the same programme, and I don't see any need to explain this to the audience.

So, I think the piece is probably perfectly truthful, unlike your slur.

So you don't think that the BBC work to increase engagement then?

I suppose that might explain their plummeting audience figures...

Yeuk.

Well, TBF, it looks like it wasn’t meant for those who put in some hard graft…

Re your sig

"Karl Marx said religion is the opium of the people. But Marxism is the crack cocaine."

Most people have heard of Karl Marx the philosopher but few know of his sister Onya the Olympic runner. Her name is still mentioned at the start of every race.

A cynic might suspect a Trans drummer because BBC obviously has to.

Cheers

Dave R

LOL.

There's always been a raft of products fir young people with more money than sense.

I've seen at least 10 absolutely cracking girl drummers on Youtube over the last year. Wearing skimpy enough tops to be sure they have the usual equipment...

All these comments from people who hadn't seen the programme incentivised me to look at it on i-player. After getting the shock that 2nd class stamps are now 91p and might take 3 days to deliver not

2 as previously, I fast forwarded to the rave item.

They said that one man had been sent to cover it, and it looked fine to me. Only a couple of seconds of the female drummer from behind, so not much thrill there. The apparent scene changes might have been due to the weather, and I'm sure the video was pieced together in random order to convey a summary result.

Probably, engagement is important too, although I'm not quite sure what it means.

Is that this one ? 42 seconds ?

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Parts of the story seem to be shot with smartphones.

who ever shot the other clip, may not have had permission to record a live performance, and that's why the clip is cut short.

In a previous era, an ENG team consisted of a reporter plus a cameraman, the camera was a shoulder mount with three sensors and nice optics (zoom and macro, could do interviews). it was the kind of camera, you could set it running on a table and then go stand in front of it.

Then, to save money, for a while the reporter carried the camera and interviewed people at the same time.

The usage of smartphones is clever, but the aspect ratio is all wrong. It also allows you to clandestinely record things, as there is no bulky camera indicating you are a news crew.

Maybe the second piece of footage was obtained from someone else who was at the venue. Someone with a different kind of camera (like my P&S camera shoots 30FPS video). The aspect ratio of my camera, is a little closer to TV usage, but the quality isn't there. Drop the light level a little bit, and it gets grainy.

Paul

Shock? It's wonderful news! Let me explain.

In a fit of enthusiasm when I was still working and sending lots of letters, I invested in 1st class and 2nd class postage stamps. Around £500-600 worth.

After I retired, I thought I would sell the excess stamps on ebay, only to find that there were folk in China selling 'genuine' Royal Mail stamps at 5% of face value. So, I didn't bother to sell them for a pittance.

In the meantime, RM got tired of being defrauded and introduced bar-coded stamps, and fortunately swapped my old stamps for the bar-coded ones.

In the 1970s, the BBC TV News department had a Nizo Super-8 film camera (something like this:

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) and a Nagra SN recorder (with manual tape rewind) for such situations.
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I hadn't realised that Super 8 was routinely used for news reports - apart from viewers' "I was there" footage.

I remember a 1990s drama set in a news studio and one of their news reporters was reporting from a repressive foreign country that prohibited news reporters from other countries reporting from that country. The reporter smuggled a domestic camcorder in, but it either got found and confiscated or else damaged in some way, so the local fixer in that country produced his old Super 8 camera that he used for home movies, and the reporter used it to make his report and he smuggled the film cassette out. The report made it onto the news despite last minute panics like the film tearing in the telecine and having to be spliced on-the-fly during live transmission of it.

But the other reporters and studio manager looked down on Super 8 as being very poor quality. But the old adage still holds: the best camera is the one that you have with you and which takes the prize-winning picture.

But no mention in this thread of BBC death squads roaming the streets. Strange.

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