But not on the 5000th model built after 12 years of hard usage. Test pilots have a job, and that is to find out all this s*it *before* it kills someone.
But not on the 5000th model built after 12 years of hard usage. Test pilots have a job, and that is to find out all this s*it *before* it kills someone.
Thanks. That's exactly why I recommended him. As for Rodders...
Frank
I haven't read rodders., He's been killfilled over a decade now After a couple of years of abusive abrasive and completely unhelpful posts I asked my self what I was doing even reading his s*it. and could not find one good answer
Is this despite the information saying the two cutoff switches were moved from run to shut-off 1 second apart?
In Jeffs world it only becomes true when an Official Report says it.
In message <105e47o$26n36$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me, at 19:36:39 on Fri, 18 Jul
2025, mm0fmf snipped-for-privacy@invalid.com remarked:AIUI that's because the two switches are some distance apart, and therefore can only be operated one after the other. (Assuming just one hand is used).
In message <105d58h$1voed$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me, at 10:48:01 on Fri, 18 Jul
2025, The Natural Philosopher snipped-for-privacy@invalid.invalid remarked:
Of course it is, it's potentially republishing a libel.
In message snipped-for-privacy@pvr2.lan, at 17:13:11 on Fri, 18 Jul
2025, Rod Speed snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com remarked:They are also relaxing the ID requirement.
Roland Perry snipped-for-privacy@perry.co.uk> wrote
There is no legal problem with stating that say the WSJ said that
Not relaxing, just making it easier for 16 year olds to have ID
I don't think that is actionable because it isn't technically re-publication.
Otherwise the BBC would be awash with lawsuits.
For repeating false, defamatory and even terrorist propaganda. E.g. they can report 'Immam Joe Bloggs called upon all Muslims to rise up and slaughter the Jew' with impunity. (And frequently do).
In message <105fl6v$2l795$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me, at 09:32:31 on Sat, 19 Jul
2025, The Natural Philos>> In message <105d58h$1voed$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me, at 10:48:01 on Fri, 18They have highly paid media lawyers, and will only repeat things which they believe aren't realistically actionable in the first place.
Do you have a tame media lawyer, or have even been on a media law training course?
In message snipped-for-privacy@pvr2.lan, at 17:31:39 on Sat, 19 Jul
2025, Rod Speed snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com remarked:"Making it easier", is exactly what "relaxing" means.
Nope, not with proving that you are who you say you are when you don't have a drivers license
In message snipped-for-privacy@pvr2.lan, at 18:57:43 on Sun, 20 Jul
2025, Rod Speed snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com remarked:
Do try to keep up! The relaxation is permitting **UK-issued bank cards** to be used as ID.
I am keeping up fine, thanks
Because 16 and 17 year olds wont have driver's licenses and are less likely to have passports etc
Do any of the UK banks issue "bank cards" (debit? credit?) containing the holder's photograph?
Neither of the two banks with whom I have accounts do.
And if, as I believe to be the case, none of the others do, this is a straightforward undermining of the requirement for photo-ID at the polling station.
A bank card proves precisely *nothing* about the identity of the person holding it in their hand.
Anyone can borrow or steal a bank card. And I expect that some will.
A 16 yr-old can get a provisional driving licence for a moped. That rule is still in place. And the licence will bear the photograph submitted with the application.
Sure, but only a tiny number of them will have done that
I agree that a bank card is useless given that they aren't photo id
Maybe someone should raise an RFD for a uk group where miscellaneous topics can be discussed
Brian
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