But the point is the opposite. It doesn't matter that the tiles are easy to cut. What matters is that there are some standard sizes and that lighting panel sizes match them. That means that if such a light is installed in a plasterboard ceiling and it fails, a replacement that will fit into exactly the same hole will be easy to find.
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PeterC
Fill your boots!
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nothanks
Thanks, I hadn't thought of that. The nearest Ikea is a couple of hours away so it will need to wait until we are heading in that direction for something else.
I don't feel comfortable with the idea of lighting being dependant on wireless or remote control. I just want it to work when I operate a switch.
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polygonum_on_google
Has anyone tried the ones available in Lidl from Thursday 3rd October?
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They usually do, if you turn them off they usually default to 100% on and whatever colour you set them to. They also usually have some way of dimming them by switching on and off and on. The manual can be download on the Ikea site if you want to take a look.
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PeterC
I view most of these 'smart' items as an added layer of unreliability and faf. If I want to turn on the CH just before I get up (times vary and, for most of the year, there's solar gain in the morning, so timer is set to 10:00h) I can take the 'stat upstairs and press one button. If that breaks then crude, manual, control is an option.
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John Rumm
Remote control can be ok but it can also have its downsides...
I placed RGB LED tape lighting on the top of my bookcase and media unit[1] such that you can illuminate the white ceiling for some soft reflected light. I find for movie watching setting the one behind me on a low level and set to a yellow/orangy light is just right for some background lighting.
They are controlled by a small IR remote. The selectivity of the receiver is narrow enough that the one remote will control each independently just by pointing the the general direction of the right one. The only fly in the ointment is there is remote control code overlap with my Oppo blueray player. Pause a disc, and the lights go cyan, eject one, and they go into colour cycling disco mode!
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This one behind the sofa:
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Dave Plowman (News)
Anyone else think they'd look a bit 'industrial' (or office) in a kitchen?
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Harry Bloomfield, Esq.
John Rumm formulated on Friday :
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alan_m
No but I do think a kitchen, bathroom or hallway with multiple down-lighters looks naff. I also think that the fad for butler sinks and wooden draining boards makes a kitchen look if it desperately needs modernising. The same with those impractical sinks that sit on top of bathroom worktops.
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+1.
I don't think you can beat a Mazda Netaline.
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Dave Plowman (News) snipped-for-privacy@davenoise.co.uk> wrote
Nope, look fine to me. Tho with most of the kitchen I prefer under cupboard led strips which give much better lighting for the work surfaces. Doesn?t work for the island bench tho. I'd prefer a modular led panel for the island bench extending the entire length of the island bench but that?s not going to be cheap with current led panels and since the Hue system doesn?t have led panels yet, I currently have led strip suspended from the ceiling at a bit over head height for that.
I don?t have lighting above the cupboards reflecting off a white ceiling because I prefer the look of cupboards going right up to the ceiling even if the top shelves don?t get used.
But then I never gave a damn about what looks a bit industrial or office and had normal double tube fluoros before the leds.
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A lovely bit of design.
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Steve Walker
No, but how about CPC?
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As they are mail order, you can return them under the distance selling regulations.
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Dave Plowman (News)
Luckily we all have different tastes. Thing would be very boring otherwise.
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alan_m
Sometimes it's not just taste but from lessons learnt or from experience of similar.
As I get older I find that I prefer a brighter "daylight" type light, especially for reading and anywhere that I'm working.
As for basins on top of worktops I've seen these installed in workplace toilets where they are only used for washing hands and noticed an amazing amount of water ends up on the worktop rather than in the basin. I hate to think how much water would end up on the work surface when washing other body parts :)
My latest mistake was made a few years ago when purchasing a replacement toilet suite. Rather than the traditional shape the toilet pan has a large horizontal ledge before a drop into the water. When seated the s*it tends to land on this flat bit for inspection and leaves skid marks when flushing unless a bit of paper is placed in the porcelain first. Whats worse is splash back. Its OK if you manage a strong steam into the hole but the dribbles hit a near horizontal surface a few inches below the rim and splashes back up and sideways in all directions. :( If I'd had previous experience of this type of design I wouldn't have purchased it!
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newshound
That style is (or used to be) popular on the continent.
I suppose it is handy when you reach the age for DIY bowel cancer screening. Although the new kit is much nicer than the old three cardboard sticks.
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ARW
"Add to this the fact that it comes complete with its own dedicated transformer":-)
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Dave Plowman (News)
Well, in a kitchen, you could concentrate that over the work surfaces. Rather than flood the entire room.
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