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[Brian Gaff (Sofa)]

Being the child of a TV Engineer and tester for the company of various tvs, I learned to read the instructions manuals well before I was exposed to Janet and John. I guess I must have seemed like a right smart ass at the infant school. Well I knew no better. I was also quite good at pronouncing the names of racehorses as my granny who looked after me during the day used to watch the racing on an afternoon, none of that Andy pandy crap. Brian

[Java Jive]

Yes, I noticed that, but didn't bother to download it. AFAIK the original film wasn't shown, was it?

Yes, I'd like to see the original film again. I'm something of an admirer of Ken Loach's work. The first thing of his I saw was 'Cathy Come Home', which, even watching it today, still has the power to move me and make me angry at officialdom.

[Java Jive]

Isn't throwing litter a crime?

[Andrew]

Not on someone elses private property, as many farmers have discovered to their cost when fly tippers have left the farmer with a huge cleanup bill.

[Java Jive]

Then that's trespass, which I believe is a crime in England, but not in Scotland unless damage is caused, which, under the scenario under discussion, it would be?

[Chris J Dixon]

He taught at the school where my dad was senior master (which was where he met Barry Hines), whilst wrestling on the side as "Leon Arras".

I only saw him in the flesh once, whilst I was with the family queuing for a slice of Denby Dale Pie, in what must have been

1964, he had a brief chat with my father.

Chris

[Andrew]

Indeed, but the problem is catching them, even if they can be identified. In rural areas this doesn't seem to be a very high priority for overstretched plod.

Having a 8-wheeler full of asbestos roofing dumped in a remote field is not much fun for the landowner.

[spuorgelgoog]

It is a crime, but it's the landowner who has the clearing-up cost (although if he can trace the perpetrator presumably he could sue.)

Owain

[Norman Wells]

Well, it could have been if it was 1977:

"It was not until Becher's Brook (the 22nd) that Red Rum went into first position, when the leader and pre-race favourite, Andy Pandy, fell".

[Java Jive]

F*king bastards! We even get that sort of thing around here, I've seen a load of stuff dumped in a layby - dead tv, old tyres, etc. This less than five miles away from the local tip where the same could have been dumped for free.

But, actually, almost a worse problem are some of the farmers themselves - derelict farm buildings, old tractors, rolls of old fencing, etc just left to rot. In an environment like that, it's almost not surprising that people add their own fly-tipping to the mix.

Then there are the drivers who just throw things out of their vehicle windows, such as in Bill's case. I walk local roads regularly, and every time, summer or winter (so mostly it's not tourists) I see new items appear on the verge every few hundred yards - cans, plastic bottles, plastic bags, sometimes even nappies and sanitary items.

I confess it's something that really, really angers me.

[Ian Jackson]

In message <qrm2ks$176q$ [e-mail]>, Java Jive [e-mail]> writes

Free? An increasing number of local tips (sorry - "recycling facilities") have, for quite some time, been charging for allowing you to dispose of your unwanted stuff. General day-to-day personal household stuff is generally still free, but anything that smacks of DIY, property and garden maintenance, improvement and modification etc might well attract a charge (as though it was trade). Strangely, local authorities in whose areas the tips now charge for personal waste are totally puzzled as to why there has also been a marked increase in fly-tipping.

[Andrew]

The nappies etc probably are tourists, or indeed anyone with kids.

You should visit some of the laybys on the A34. TO save money on proper overnight truck stops, a lot of drivers overnight here and then take a dump on the grass behind the layby and leave their 2-litre coke bottles full of piss for the highways agency to clean up. The smell is horrendous in hot weather.

[Andrew]

West Sussex still accept DIY waste. They only charge for car tyres and a few other things, but soon realised that Surrey residents were driving all the way to Billingshurst to dump *their* diy and other stuff that Surrey now charges for.

Most trailers are now banned, even the silly little diy camper things.

From Dec 1st anyone using a WSCC tip must carry a signed note from all four of their grandparents, or something like that, to prove where they live.

The roads between Billingshurst and Guildford or up the A29 back to Dorking are going to get a hammering with flytipping any day soon.

[Java Jive]

Well, this is Scotland, Highland Council to be exact, and AFAIAA all the local tips will still accept free the sort of stuff that was flytipped in that layby - certainly the dead TV, and I think up to two car tyres at a time, and IIRC there were only the two. However, there is a form that you're supposed to fill out for disposing of larger quantities of DIY waste from vans or trailers, but when I took down a trailer-load of junk from cleaning out around my house, including bits of an old washing machine and some rusty gates, the guy at the site accepted these without any form or any bother.

Yes, seems somewhat short-sighted.

[Java Jive]

Those might have been tourists, but in general the rate of accumulation builds up equally in summer and in winter, so most of the stuff thrown onto the verges is not from tourists, but local people driving out into Sutherland to and from work - delivery van drivers, builders, etc.

Ugh! Reminds me rather of this:

Costing the Earth - Litter

There's an interview in it with an American-born, I think, resident in the UK who was so appalled at the litter on the roadside around his area that he started picking it up. He found that where people had eaten a take-away such as fish'n'chips, they'd then crapped into the polystyrene container and chucked it out of the window.

[Harry Bloomfield, Esq.]

Java Jive formulated the question :

No, only short snips of the original..

Its what he does best.. All very well observed and grittily realistic.

[Harry Bloomfield, Esq.]

Chris J Dixon wrote on 27/11/2019 :

I felt quite intimidated by him, he spoke and acted exactly the way he appeared in Kes with that strong south Yorks accent. I had no idea who he was back then, but I recognised him straight away when I saw Kes a decade later in the 70's.

[Bill Wright]

What? You need to quote what you're answering.

Bill

[Bill Wright]

I don't know if it is when on private property. It ought to be.

Bill

[Bill Wright]

Aren't you confusing criminal law with the council's stated responsibilities?

Bill