Laptop replacement

I have Win 10 Pro and it simply notifies me that Updates are available and I choose to download them. I must have set up something on Win7 Pro that I upgraded from, because I don't recollect making this choice on Win 10.

Annoyingly, updates for Edge just get blitzed in when I reboot the m/c and I don't get asked. On a 32 bit m/c this can make it unusable for a while.

Tesla might have to.

I remember lots of comments (even before 2008) when one of HM's latest ships was said to be running Win 3.1. On inspection, it was evident that the software in question was actually test software used as part of the "Setting to Work" process to get the systems talking to each other. Nothing at all to do with the software used when operational.

(At that time, I was using test software - on quite different hardware - which was DOS based. If test software does the job, you don't bother to change it.)

This example is 11 years old!

Dos was an easy platform to code simple jobs for - direct access to hardware, simple interrupt system, and no nasty background tasks going on

Nothing wrong with it,

I haven't been able to get Win 10 to work like that, if you ever find out how I would love to know!

I suppose if you prefer to page 64k chunks in an out of a 1MB address space, and only being able to run one application at a time, then it's absolutely great.

Most of us have moved on, a very, very long time ago.

Are are you sure it doesn't download major updates, its just the optional it prompts for.

I don't believe you can, except in an enterprise settings. You can set

"Notify me when a restart is required"

but after 24 hours it may still restart automatically.

Dave

And it will never be forgotten. It is a perfect textbook example of how not to create extremely important and sensitive production software, to be used by half the world. It will be taught in computer science classes forever.

The bug was a schoolboy buffer addressing error. The code involved a new function in OpenSSL, one which had previously been considered unnecessary. It was coded by a student, and it was audited by *one* other person, who had a close personal connection with the writer, before inclusion in the Linux kernel.

In other words, everything that could be done incorrectly in terms of accepted software engineering practices was done. The error was always claimed to be accidental, but certainly, the intelligence services of the world, and many criminals, benefited from it.

You can cut off all updates, if you want. One win10 user in the Win10 group, has frozen his OS that way. This does not prevent App Updates, which you can see happening if you open Setup and type "relia" for the reliability monitor. It logs application update activity, at least, some of it.

The ChromEdge browser the computer uses, it has multiple instances and updates, and you can find space wasted on your computer for that, as if some of the versions are there for emergency rollback. I don't know if that is logged in the reliability monitor. There is a separate file.

C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\EdgeUpdate\Log\MicrosoftEdgeUpdate.log

Looks like there is activity, hourly.

Paul

No, the notification says "You need some updates". I click on it and the Windows update page appears showing whatever patch tuesday updates are available, plus the daily "you have installed something we don't like" update, and below is an optional "quality" update which I ignore

Putting "updates" into the search box and selecting "Windows Update Settings" puts me into the main Windows Update page, where I can see "view configured update policies" and clicking on this shows a page with the text "Wondering why you're seeing 'Some settings are managed by your organisation" (which shows at the top of the main Windows Update page).

Then under "Policies set on your device" I see - Notify to download updates Source:Administrator Type:Group Policy

Set Automatic Update Options Source:Administrator Type:Group Policy

On the right of the screen is a link to learn how Windows Group Policies manage updates, which gives this page -

Hope this helps

Andrew

And the fact that 20% of new cars are supplied by Motabilty sort of confirms that when it comes to 'free' the British are experts at freeloading off others.

Updates are put into batches and given a monthly stamp. This may have been intended at one time, to improve the performance of the Windows Update installation process, which had a huge preamble as the update process computed which update supersedes which other update. Even the Jumbo packing mechanism is causing problems for Windows Update, and the scan time can be pretty long now (a scan happens before an Update can come in).

They can be on the order of 600MB to 700MB, if downloaded from catalog.update.microsoft.com . The Catalog entries are "Cumulative", except when they aren't Cumulative and other older patches insist on installing after a later one is installed. the patches can contain Servicing Stack Updates, and those gate later patches.

While there is some sort of scheme to only download the parts of it not on the machine (delta method), I don't know relative numbers for that. Getting the update through Windows Update and not downloading an executable .msu file, might only take 200MB.

In the WinXP era, a Security Update could be 2MB to 3MB, and orders of magnitude smaller than the jumbo things that come in now.

Other patching activity is happening constantly. MSEdge checks once per hour for updates. Metro.Apps, you can see in the Reliability Monitor, entries corresponding to them being updated. Telemetry is uploaded in batches (at relatively low rate). Typed URLs are being sent to Vortex. It's a busy busy heap of steaming trash.

Some day soon, CoPilot.App may need to be removed. A capability to "watch your screen" is being added (not "Recall", a new feature). The CoPilot.App is not absolutely required, as the upper-right corner of MSEdge browser has an icon, and you can still ask questions (without the machine having access to your screen). The topic of CoPilot "Helping run your machine", is fraught with peril. For example, say that CoPilot knows what the "del" command does. Is that a good thing ? :-/ It would be like a Self Driving Chainsaw.

Paul