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... or wait with the clock running very slowly for all the cores.

I don’t use Microsoft OSes at all.

What was that about being “suckered by MSFT marketing bullshit” ... ?

Ill-fated attempt to copy Apple ... thankfully short-lived.

Core state transitions are ultra-fast now.

Previously, the F-V curve (as depicted at the URL below), required making small steps of voltage and frequency, and it might take a millisecond doing it that way, to go from the lowest P-state to the highest P-state.

But I recollect a diagram being drawn, showing a core jumping pretty well directly from one frequency to another. And the time scale was at the microsecond level.

Paul

You said "Would you entrust mission-critical business operations to obsolete,

You do have some level of control on pro versions, and full control on enterprise ones.

The sad reality is that the majority of hacks on systems exploit holes that have already been fixed for some time, but for whatever reason the patches have not been applied.

Professional IT admins in business *aught* to know better, but I expect that many home users see the interruptions to their use of a system and the potential complications from unexpected changes in UI, performance, functionality, and workflow etc that come with patches and updates are a PITA and things to be avoided and whinged about.

So MS have decided the only way they can improve this situation for home users, is to take control of the patching process. Based on the number of people I have met that proudly boast that they have "never installed any updates, and my system still works just fine", they are probably right!

Says the man running an OS that has not had any security patches since January 10, 2023. :-)

Remember that there are substantial amounts of shared code in successive versions of windows (or any OS for that matter), so each time that MS or another vendor issue a patch for a critical vulnerability in a current version of your OS or app, those patches by their very nature will identify what was changed, and usually give strong clues what the actual vulnerability was. Armed with that information, you can then work out if the same vulnerability exists in older unsupported versions, and how it can be exploited.

Generally not "easy" problems to deal with.

Having said that, at least it can be done for actively supported consumer OSs. In the IoT and embedded systems market however, the whole system is a cluster fsck! How often do people update the firmware in their routers, CCTV systems, phone systems etc? How often do they rip out and replace hardware that is still working because it is no longer supported? How much electronic tat has never been supported, for which there is no obvious update mechanism, and was riddled with bugs from day one? There are loads of them that are now in bot nets and happily up to mischief at their masters behest!

On 28 Mar 2025 08:36:24 GMT "Jeff Gaines" snipped-for-privacy@outlook.com wrote: []

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I treat my computer as a tool so compare it with, say, a room I am decorating. At the end of the work day the brushes get cleaned or put in soak, the lids go back on the various containers and that's it.

My main desktop is the same. Currently I have 5 documents open in UltraEdit, 4 instances of Visual Studio running, my own notepad app and my own programming toolbox all running. When I call it a day I turn the screen off. Along comes MSFT in the middle of the night and reboots. Most things will be saved, I have learnt my lesson from MSFT, but there is no way in the world I will remember everything I had open.

I did consider Enterprise so I had control but the cost is prohibitive. I do have my "JGRunningProcesses" app running. It write a log every 30 minutes of everything that is running and doesn't auto start after shutdown. That means I can go through the last log if MSFT has done the dirty and set my workspace up again.

It still gets some sort of updates which it installs when I tell it to. As long as apps I wrote for Win98 continue to run I can be pretty sure the Windows code base hasn't change much!

Don't forget Windows for warships is actually Windows 3.1 :-)

Or you could, you know, set a group policy so that updates and reboots are 99% in your control. And just like that, these forced reboots are a thing of the past.

Sure you eventually have to install updates and reboots but *YOU* get to chose when.

Not seen that touted as a possible solution, do you have a link to an example please?

I have Win10 Pro and set the following Group Policies

Title: Notify to download updates Source: Administrator Type: Group Policy

Title: Set Automatic Update Options Source: Administrator Type: Group Policy

This means I get notifications that there updates to download but they are not automatically downloaded. If the update is deemed "important" by MS and you leave it "long enough" then eventually it will be automatically downloaded and applied and maybe the PC rebooted.

MS decide what "important" and "long enough" are. But since switching to W10 Pro on this PC in 2018/9 and applying these policies a few weeks later, I have never had a forced download and installation of any updates.

I did the changes through the Group Policy Editor. Can't remember now just what you do but Google Group Policy Editor and those titles and you should see how to make the changes.

As opposed to brand new unsupported but known-broken software like Windows 11?

--scott

Bad actors like Microsoft? I am more worried about Microsoft telemetry which I know is collecting my data for abuse, than I am worried about hacker-provided malware, which has only a possibility of collecting my data for abuse.

--scott

And you've been trolled by L.D.

This sort of thing happens all the time from that nick. Killfiling it is generally the best path forward.

Yes I did. And?

One complication to note is that the group policy editor is not installed on windows home. So you either have to find a clandestine way to install it, or tweak the corresponding registry settings that are normally the final effect of using gpedit.msc

(or failing that just upgrade to pro)

You have not thought this through...

You have been suckered by MSFT marketing bullshit.

But I don’t use Microsoft OSes at all.