Is tooth brushing water from hot tap safer than from cold tap?

May 06, 2006 209 Replies

The Reid wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

No, the blame is still on the undertaking driver for driving carelessly. If someone is doing 50mph in a motorway fast lane then it takes seconds to undertake and pull in front into the huge gap that by definition must exist in front of the slow driver.

Yes, probably. Speed is not the most important statistic on a motorway because all vehicles are travelling the same way and there are no other hazards as you say. 2-way traffic is different and residential areas are very different.

The Reid wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

Yes, we have the like that around here too. Conspiracy theorists are convinced it's more to do with raising revenues through fines.

Yes, I agree that cameras should be sited where they save most lives. But then again I don't agree with breaking speed limits so I have little real sympathy for those caught, frustrating though it must be,

Dave Fawthrop wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

How is that any different? You're either aware or you're not.

The message from Mike Barnes contains these words:

On someone's behalf, at least.

In any pile-up I'd expect at least some poor sods who left plenty of room, stopped with several yards to spare, then got shoved into the wreckage by the tit behind.

The message from Adrian Tupper contains these words:

Like the "Home Zone" recently made near here. All the pavements have gone and pedestrians mix freely with the cars.

Does it work?

Well, if you're a car driver, yes. There's more room to drive and few kids to worry about? Why so few kids? 'Cos where they previously had grass areas to play on, and pavements to walk along they're now kept indoors 'cos the drivers go too fast and the parents have more sense than to let their kids take part in a bold experiment.

Following up to Dave Plowman (News)

it must have been an age of innocence.

Following up to Adrian Tupper

that's what I was trying to say.

that's not the sort of situation I'm talking about, there's no huge gap, there isn't even a small gap:- either there's a lot of traffic in L3 because a few people are in L2 when they could be in L1 or there is a long queue in L3 overtaking a vehicle in L2.

L3 will typically be doing about 70

The prat, undertakes in L1 or 2 and then *forces* his way into L3 when blocked by traffic in L1 or 2 from further undertaking. He either thinks he has some right to get to the "front" by any means or falsely believes all the other people in L3 don't in fact want to go faster (actually they are waiting to overtake). As the motorway is probably in the same condition ahead he probably only makes a few hundred yards progress over other cars and may be shut out by drivers like me[1], when they get a chance and make no progress at all

1] by driving in "bursts" from beside one L2 car to the next L2 car, thus preventing undertaking unless L1 is empty (which it often is as many drivers seem to just sit in the middle lane, the original cause of this behaviour).

Following up to Adrian Tupper

might happen sometimes I suppose.

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Following up to Adrian Tupper

Dave's just stupidly obsessed by alcohol. No Dave, not alcohol, drowsiness, one of the commonest problems on motorways, normally nothing to do with alcohol at all.

Following up to Adrian Tupper

I usually think the opposite, if it doesn't work when extrapolated, its false.

the undertaker prat cant even share it with other cars! But yes, I agree, although I'm not sure its all that typical thinking nowadays. But you have to wonder why Mercs have a sight on the bonnet? :-)

Following up to Adrian Tupper

I don't think it is, its just a belief in arbitrary speed limits for their own sake, irrespective of the danger at that place

|No Dave, not alcohol, |drowsiness, one of the commonest problems on motorways, normally |nothing to do with alcohol at all.

Simply solved by a cup of coffee, and a walk to the Cafe in the service area.

A heavy drinker isn't necessarily an alcoholic. Addiction means you simply

*can't* stop without external help.

My son was hit from behind and 3 cars behind him shunted. The police blamed my son!! Fortunately the Insurance company didn't agree!

Ophelia

Guy King wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@zetnet.co.uk:

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Yes, that's the danger and that's why I think it's a serious offence.

The Reid wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

Sorry, I thought you were refering to the slow driver.

Yes, people like that should be done for careless driving.

ISTR an experiment where cars "raced" between two junctions of a busy motorway. The car that hopped lanes arrived something like 30 seconds ahead of the drivers who stayed in the same lane. i.e. was it worth it?

"Ophelia" wrote in news:AyK8g.122305$ snipped-for-privacy@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk:

I thought the driver behind was always at fault. Although I would argue against that if it is soneone who has just pulled in front of me. But I'm sure your son wouldn't do that!

Seems he was just tootling along just below the limit and they ran into him. I have always heard that anyone who runs into a car in front is at fault for not leaving anough space between them. The insurance people say the the police are talking nonsense and gave him a courtesy car immediately

"Ophelia" wrote in news:BZL8g.122937$ snipped-for-privacy@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk:

Good for them. I don't know what the police are thinking about.

A wooden tank.

And for the hot water, it is never a good idea to get used to using it to brush teeth. You don't want to get in the habit of using hot water to brush teeth, because other places (.e.g, a friend's house) might have hotter hot water.

Jeff

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