How to prolong the life of your petrol-engined car!



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Well Mr IMM, if you knew anything about magazine publication....
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John Rumm wrote:

Lithium polymer mate. Streets ahead. Literally.
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taxation
They don't know this, which is shameful.
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IMM wrote:

And you think that will be enough to keep Gorden's mits off it?
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Or any of the other want-ta-be's....
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Oh the ignominy of it, being put right by dIMM of all people.
<Hangs head in shame, dons hair shirt and wonders where the scourge is hidden>
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dIMM never put you right, I put you right as usual.

Are you about to commit suicide too?
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I wouldn't worry. He doesn't actually *have* one. Nor an Aston. He's a spotty no-mates geek with a thing for brochures.
And outside California, the Prius is a pointless heap of junk.
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Do have an evidence to support this article of faith?
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Anyone with a shred of mechanical knowledge would realise that an onboard petrol engine charging an onboard battery is merely a ploy to reduce emissions in city centres. Like for like it *must* be less efficient than direct drive. Of course the maker pulls every trick in the book to make it seem to work - low friction tyres, low weight, low drag. Use the same technology on any conventional car and the results would then be directly comparable. However, in this real world, a small diesel will both out perform - consistently, ie when the hybrid has exhausted its small battery as happens regularly in practice, and most certainly when cruising.
Autocar drive all their test vehicles over a standard route, designed to simulate the sort of conditions most would encounter. Of course it's by nature a compromise, but provides a very real comparison between makes.
The Prius managed 44 mpg. A Ford Focus 1.8 diesel 55 mpg.
Hard driving is even more revealing. Over the duration of the Autocar test, which involves performance testing, the Prius only managed 23 mpg. The Focus 44 mpg. And the Focus has better performance in every way.
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Which you don't.
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So, no hard evidence whatsover.
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Give us the benefit of yours, then, pet. Even Michael Howard attempts to answer things.
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Read what I write. Easy for intelligent people.
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

But Tony Bliar does not.
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If this is true then it will be relatively easy to track down the real name and whereabouts of dIMM aka John B. <phantom hyphen> Curtis. There can't be more than one person in the country with both a DB6 and a Prius.:-)
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version),
Roger, why would you want to track anyone down? Are you a stalker? Do you wear a long mack?
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wrote:> > I acually drive an Aston Martin DB6

This one is a pure dork!!! No brains whatseoever. I get around London approx 60 mpg, less on motorways and A roads. Also less in winter thansummer, just like all cars. See from Auto Express::
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/?long_term_test/long_term_test_story.php?idF0 56
"The Prius's fuel consumption has also provided us with a few smiles. To date, it has averaged an amazing 60.8mpg - an Auto Express long-termer record."
It makes financial sense, If you do an average of 12,000 miles a year you save approx 380 in fuel, at current prices, then you save a further 100 per year in car tax, So, 480 per year just to drive normally. If you have it 8 years, the battery and drivetrain guarantee life, that is 3840. If batteries require replacement, by then the batteries would have dropped in price because of volume production of hybrids (all major makers are bringing out models, and most have liceneced the Toyota transmiosison) . If the batteries do actually require replacement you are still ahead financially.Panansonic say the batteries should last 15 years. So let's say 12 years on average. So, if the car is 12 years old it may need 1,000 for batteries, but probably a lot cheaper than that as volume production takes off with batteries. If your existing auto transmision goes after 12 years expect to pay over 12,000.
And If you move in and out of central London each day, that is 1250 for 50 weeks per ann. That is 10,000 saved over 10 years. Then there is the free parking and tolls offered just about everywhere which you can only guess at. And this is at current lrices. Fuel will go up and congestion charges and parking will too. This car is a financial winner on all fronts. If you keep this car 10 years you would make back the buying price. I don't know any car where that is the case.
Complexity? It is simpler than a normal car. Simpler. No complex transmission, juts a planetary gear assembly, which just turns, as do bearings. No shifting gears or moving CVT pullies. The "complexity" is people not understanding it, as it is new. The new engine has an Atkinson cycle rather than the Otto cycle for efficiency. Then there is the superior ride, silence, smoothness, no poisoning the planet (90% less emissions than other filthy normal cars), saving on natural resource, etc. And it doesn't require plugging in. The performance is excellent and the car is only slightly les spacious inside than the Camry. And the kudos such a car gives. May appeal to the badge freaks, like those who buy BMWs because they are well...BMWs. Hollywood stars roll up to openings in Prius's. It has image. And me driving give it bags of image.
The new Pirus is getting major attention. It is a lot simpler and potentially more reliable than the Mk 1 version. It is cheaper to service and repair too. Some company fleets are starting to use it for financial reasons, but they can't get them as the waiting list is as long as Oxford St. High mileage company cars will be very cheap to run and the added reliability too. The USA has a backlog of 22,00 cars. They are to make it in China, only for their market, and the USA.
The ugly Mk 1 Prius had poor residuals in the UK. The new Prius residuals are similar to any other Toyota, so no loss there. Insurance is average too, as body panels are cheaper than other cars. Crash repair largely dictates insurance pemiums.
So far about 1,500 have been sold in the UK. Toyota expect to sell 2,500 in 2005 alone, without any advertising. Hybrids are becoming the norm as all top makers take them up, with most using the new Prius transmission technology.
The most acclaimed car for eons..... http://www.conceptcar.co.uk/news/technology/cardesignnews13.php "Prius hybrid system wins International Engine of the Year 2004
"Toyota Hybrid Synergy Drive powertrain gains 4 different awards
* International Engine of the Year 2004 * Best New Engine * Best Fuel Economy * Best Engine 1.4-litre to 1.8-litre
The new Toyota Prius' hybrid system has had outstanding success in the International Engine of the Year Awards 2004. This hybrid powertrain has won 3 different categories and the overall International Engine of the Year 2004 title, meaning it has scooped more trophies in one year than any other powerplant in Awards' history. "
Not bad at all.
Look at: http://www.guardian.co.uk/prius/efficiency/0,14193,1128683,00.html
"It's also one of the least expensive cars to maintain. Despite boasting more advanced technology features than any other car in its class, there is no penalty for owners in terms of its servicing schedule or the cost of maintenance and crash replacement parts. Taking the price of like-for-like components, the new Prius is actually cheaper overall to maintain and repair than many of its key market rivals. Calculating the collective price of front and rear body parts commonly replaced following a collision, the bill for the new Prius is up to 762 cheaper than the most popular medium sized competitor models. On maintenance items, such as filters and brake pads, the combined cost works out up to 35 less than the competition."
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http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/?long_term_test/long_term_test_story.php?idF0
It's funny how you seem to get the same mpg as the experts at Auto Express, any cynical person would suggest that your claimed figures for your claimed ownership has been lifted from the said Auto Express long term road test...
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http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/?long_term_test/long_term_test_story.php?idF0
It isn't funny.
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London
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/?long_term_test/long_term_test_story.php?idF0
To
No, because it's more than likely just a reworking of their article, I think it's call plagiarism at best and down right lies at worse...
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