First they came for lightbulbs

Better still explore the void above the false ceiling, especially if there is a chip fryer and smokers...

This is the real key thing: At what point does it cost more to tax you and pay bureaucrats to give it back to you in terms of services you would rather either not have, or could easily have chosen and paid for yourself if you hadn't had the tax money removed in the first place.

Is the purpose of government to create make-work and redistribute income from those that earn it to those that frankly don't, or is it to provide uniformly (bad) services to everyone at a high price in terms of taxation, or its it to keep the peace, mend the roads and stop johnny foreigner wandering in and creating mayhem etc?

It used to be simply the latter, until the Glorious Socialism of the 60s onwards assumed that we all wanted high taxes (as long as someone else got taxed) free services (even if they were worth what you paid for them) and lots of chaps with speed cameras and parking tickets going around telling you that you couldn't do the sensible thing...

I got mine off eBay!

And what limit should that be ? and why

That will depend on the adverts and not much else.

That can't be done you need to biol more water as it evaporrates as it boils and any steam coning out reduces efficiency, and yuo get bits of lime scale in yuor cup if yuo use every ml of water you boil.

Ideally you'd use one of those boiling water taps then no one would need a kettle would they, but I don't believe those taps are as efficient as a kettle anyway.

That's the 'logic' I just don't get. if I have a kettle that is half the power it will take twice as long to heat up, so it'll be on twice as long possible more due to loses.

yes and I'm not sure a 300 watt kettle would actually boil enough to make a decent cup of tea.

Right. So you were disillusioned with the UK long before the EU arrived? Yet want to go back to the 'old days' before it? Do you ever think before posting?

So if you can't use all the water in the kettle, why the concern about what remains cooling down quickly?

Waste of energy. I used to fill kettles up full-ish at random, until I thought about it and now only fill more or less to the required level.

I've never been frustrated by the UK, I might be disillusioned by some of t he individuals in it or who re making teh laws or whatever. I was disgusted by jimmy savellie not the UK, I was disillusioned and disgu sted by those that allowed him to do what he did and those that turned a b lind eye to what was happening, for me this didn't reflect on the UK as a w hole but just on those individuals.

You can't seperate these things quite as easily as you imagine.

Do we really want to go back to the days when we could trade with Europe li ke we did 2000 years ago, without teh need to give someone in the UK/EU ext ra money for doing little if anything.

Do yo want to live in an united Europe where one country alone decides to e ffectivley ban abortions (Poland)

Have you looked to the west of where you live at all? You'll have to cross some water, but not an ocean.

That apart, I'm very intrigued as to how one - even a couple - of staunchly Catholic countries could apparently ban abortions across the whole of the EU.

Perhaps Dave would care to climb out of the Whisky bottle for long enough to explain that one?

Still, it's not like that bastion of freedom - the US - would ever take such a strong stance against personal freedoms, is it?

Oh.

to effectivley ban abortions (Poland)

You mean the part that isn't England or the UK I think it's called Republic of Ireland and is a seprate country. I don;t remmebr being asked to vote o n such a thing even though the Republic of Ireland is in the EU, so where's the democray that is spoken so highly off in the EU.

Is the EU a democrcy or not ? Is the EU more controlled by religion than it should be ?

What's personal freedom the right to bare arms, well we don't have that in teh UK do we.

Permanent magnet motor are much more efficient than conventional ones.

Amateurs already banned from the concentrate(since last September). I have got my supply in.

I didn't know it had already been banned to amateurs. I thought they were just mulling it over. What strength defines 'concentrate' Harry? Do you have a link?

Me too, in anticipation.

Right. You're apparently in favour of our 'sovereignty' since you want to leave the EU - but want to have a vote on the internal affairs of a separate country? Something doesn't quite compute...

I'm sure the US right to bear arms will prove very useful if Trump gets elected.

But are you seriously saying you'd like to see that right here?