Eurolocks... keyless alternatives?

[Al N]

Hi all,

The PVC front door on my new house has a eurolock. It's the kind you have to turn two full turns in order to lock and unlock the door. That is pretty fiddly, especially when it's dark, wet and windy and you're in a hurry. Is there any quicker, more instantaneous type of lock that would fit the door? I'd be much happier with a lock that could be unlocked instantly using a key fob - or even a push-button combination lock might be easier.

I suppose one option would be to replace the PVC door with a wooden door with a traditional yale lock, although those are probably a bit too pickable.

Any suggestions?

TIA

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[Jim K]

I reckon that's the lock mechanism in the door lock that requires 2 turns, rather than the cylinder itself

Jim K

[Peter Parry]

Most eurolocks are about as secure as a ham sandwich. Even a cheap Yale is more resistant to bypass. Few scrotes have the ability to pick a lock these days, edoookation in Borstal has gone right down the tubes.

Most now rely upon something called "bumping" or a woodscrew and hammer. Defeating most eurolocks takes about 5-10 seconds and can be done without too much observable fuss. They are slightly better than using Edam cheese to secure a door but not much.

[Bob Eager]

Use a BS3621 Yale lock. PBS1 or PBS2. More differs than the standard, and anti-pick/bump/flexible plastic.

[The Other Mike]

They might be secure but they have a usability and convenience factor of zero.

Spawn of the devil oh f*ck I've locked myself out of the house yet again when the wind caught the door heaps of shit.

We ripped those things out a few decades ago.

[Gazz]

I saw kits to do what you want in germany a few years ago, but you needed the euro lock version with the thumb turn on the inside,

the kit was a remote controlled motorised thumb turn.. erm, turner, you fixed the motor unit box to the inside of the door, it slots over the thumb turn and is secured to the door using the existing handle mounting screws,

Then you can just press the key fob, and it'll run the motor untill it's unlocked, press the other fob button and it does the oposite, i believe there was a way to set it up so it'll only unlock with the fob, so you ensure you have the key with you... incase the batteries die in the motor box or something i guess.

And there was an extension handle on the inside so you can still operate the thumb turn if the batteries were dead or the motor box malfunctioned and you needed to get out quick (as i just know someone is going to say 'great devise, it'll fail in a fire or melt and trap you inside')

I'm sure conrad electronics sold them, they have an english version of their site, but i recall seeing them in the bauhauses (praktica, OBI etc)

[RJH]

'Most'? Do you know of any that are reasonably secure?

Thanks, Rob

[Al N]

"Gazz" wrote in news:k6sqdu$l1f$ [e-mail]:

Hi Gazz, That sounds ideal - thank you! Googling has proven fruitless though. If anyone can provide a link to a supplier, I would be very grateful.

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[Al N]

Peter Parry wrote in news: [e-mail]:

That's why I have securty cameras and an alarm. Can anyone recommend a urolock that is fairly secure yet reasonably cheap?

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[polygonum]

Is that for the incontinence?

[Ilene D'over]

No one seems to be addressing the fundamental problem here if I read your post correctly. It suggests that you have an older locking system which relied on the key turning to operate the cams and/or mortise bolts whereas more modern locks rely on the handle to do the work.

I suspect that your door has only cams to lock and seal the door with, possibly, a single mortise bolt at the striker plate. If I am wrong, please give more detail of your lock type.

Changing the lock mechanism for a later, handle operated, type is the easy part. The problem will be getting keeps and a striker plate to match your PVCu profile.

It is possible but not easy to make a good job of this but, if you have the older type of lock described above, seriously consider changing it anyway for improved security.

As for eurocylinders, modern ones such as the Avocet are excellent and extremely secure at a cost of about GBP30.00 each which is not a high price to pay for a good eurocylinder.

Regarding motorised locks etc. don't waste your money on what can end up as a real problem further down the line.

[Ilene D'over]

Avocet at GBP30.00. Cheap means cheap and nasty, probably Chinese and a waste of time.

[Chris Hogg]

Still bumpable though. See

there any eurolock that really can't be bumped?

[Ilene D'over]

anyone refers to an Avocet eurocylinder nowadays they mean

>Is there any eurolock that really can't be bumped?

See above!

[metric_trade]

Yale does a key fob lock:

a cheaper keypad lock. alternatives are available.

[Chris Hogg]

Ta muchly!

[Al N]

polygonum wrote in news:afesl8Frb1dU1 @mid.individual.net:

No - I use a figure-of-eight knot for that. Works like magic.

[Al N]

Ilene D'over wrote in news:X5rLJLCkAkkQFwaY@0.0.0.0:

Correct.

Thanks a lot for the tip. I had thought about replacing the whole front door, as it's very dated and I don;t like the large pane of glass it has in it. In the meantime, I may go for one of the Avocet locks you mentioned. My back door does have the handle-operated lock you mentioned, but again, the eurocylinder could do with upgrading.

Regards,

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[Al N]

metric [e-mail] wrote in news: [e-mail]:

Thanks for the links.

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[Thomas Prufer]

on an existing cylinder with a key on the inside.

Here, in English:

Prufer