Front door lock complete with handles - what's it called?

[Chris Green]

The existing night latch on our front door is a nuisance because it's not possible to set it so that it can be left 'unlocked' with easy access to go in and out without a key.

The door has (relatively) secure keyed deadlocks for when we really want to lock up.

So I'm looking for a 'front door lock' which has handles on both inside and outside to replace the night latch. My M-I-L's house has one so I know such things exist but I can't find anything that looks like what want at Screwfix or Toolstation. What should I be searching for, maybe I have the name wrong?

[spuorgelgoog]

Not an exact replacement for the night latch 'yale' type lock, but do you mean rim latch?

Owain

[Chris Green]

No, not really, I did find them when I looked at ScrewStation. They look like what to me is a 'back door' lock.

What my M-I-L's house has is a complete integrated lock and handles with handles both inside and outside. It 'looks right' on a front door too.

[Robin]

like these?

[Chris Green]

This is *something* like what I'm after:

Though I'd prefer something a bit more 'front door' like, probably with shorter stubbier handles.

[Andy Burns]

It it for a uPVC door, or a traditional door?

I you search for lever/pad door handles you should get some (or offset/pad if you want to force use of a key instead of handle to open from outside)

[Andy Burns]

aka "split spindle"

[Roger Hayter]

They certainly used (c. a century ago) to use latches without the separate lock, so that would be neater, and I am sure still available. But why not just used a mortised door latch as used on internal doors nowadays?

[Chris Green]

It's for a wooden door to replace the existing night latch. I explicitly *don't* want to force the use of a key, that's the whole point of changing. I want it to be possible to open the front door easily from the outside when it's not locked so we can use it to go in and out during the day (what a concept, going in and out through a door!).

[Chris Green]

Sort of, though I'd prefer a small lever to a knob and don't really need/want the ability to lock with the 'tab' inside.

[Andy Burns]

As a matter of habit, I check on the way out whether I have my keys in my pocket, if not and if I'm not going far) I put the "snick" on the lock ...

[Chris Green]

We could probably do that but the handle and outside hardware need to be weatherproof.

I just fancy something like a night latch type handle both inside and outside with the ability to lock it with a 'yale type' key if necessary.

At present to allow us to go in and out there are three options:-

Leave the door open, fine during the summer but it's getting cold again now.

Set the night latch 'snib' to prevent it latching, OK except that the dog pushes it open and doesn't close it behind her! :-)

Leave a key in the door, OK'ish but it's not particurly handy for rushing in and out and the M-I-L's fingers probably can't manage the key now.

[Chris Green]

See my comment elsewhere in the thread, the dog will push the door open and she *doesn't* close it after her! Not to mention that the wind may also blow it open.

[Chris Green]

Nearly there, this would do:-

[Michael Chare]

There is a mortice and a cylinder lock on this page. The door handles are no doubt elsewhere.

[DJC]

[Andy Burns]

"Suitable for interior doors"

That said, my front door had one of those fitted when I moved in (along with a yale night latch) I don't think it would survive long in a wrenching/snapping attack.

[invalid]

Are you saying you don't want a lock at all but a latch like on interior doors?

[invalid]

Its not that difficult to find a mortice lock with latch.

[invalid]

Remember it may invalidate your insurance when some one enters and steals the car keys.