"Electric car range anxiety to be cured by battery that charges in five minutes"
May 19, 2021 Last reply: 5 years ago 213 Replies
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Steve Walker
Yes. One battery for a small, town car, 2 or more for larger vehicles, especially going on a long journey. Manufacturers can design how and where they fit, with details being passed on (or even provided by the car) for robot arms at the stations to access and change the batteries at the right angles and so on.
However, that wouldn't allow for say sliding in from the side , going in at an angle and rotating into position or using multiple smaller packs, to allow flexibility and optimisation of vehicle design.
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Joey
Because its too much farting around plugging all the cars in.
More fool you. It isnt.
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charles
yes , three or four days notice should be given of intended death.
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charles
wiki says 1973.
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Bob Eager
I remember having petrol coupons in 1973-74.
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NY
"Uncle Harry's planning to die next Tuesday. Is that enough notice to make all your travel arrangements for his funeral?"
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T i m
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But what if we changed how we 'traditionally' do things?
Many have lost loved ones during this pandemic and were not allowed to do what they normally might so many have planned doing 'something' when they are able (including my mate across the road who lost his wife mid lockdown).
I didn't go to my Dads funeral (a few years back now) nor my stepdaughters [1] because I'm not a traditionalist and prefer to deal with such things in my own way.
Cheers, T i m
[1] I was happy to 'play a part' where it was helpful to others, like driving people about or looking after the dogs etc.
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Ian Jackson
I hope these batteries are not like the tiny button type I get for a small clock (actually a watch mounted in a plinth). Some last for ages, while others literally for just a week or two. Just imagine driving out of the 'filling station', and only getting a couple of miles up the road before the battery goes flat!
There's also the problem of standardization. If they're like watch batteries, there will be hundreds of 'standard' sizes and voltages.
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Clive Arthur
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Fly to Knock, hire a car (I don't think you can fly to Sligo any more?)
Which reminds me of a friend working in Dublin who asked her manager for a day off next week to attend a funeral. "How do you know?" was his response.
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T i m
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Funnily enough, that's exactly what I wrote in my HND project over 40 years ago where a modularised pack would be swapped out from below by a suitably equipped / designed 'Battery Station'.
You pull up over a bay (wheels guided by rails so you can't drive into it, like in a car wash), the vehicle locked into position and disabled, existing battery supported, released and lowered sub terrain, charged battery slid into place onto lift, lifted, re-fitted, enabled, vehicle released and they drive out. The whole process would be automated etc (like a car wash).
A small range of modular packs covering most vehicles that have the feature (not all need to).
If a fully charged battery suitable for your car isn't available at that station it tells you so as you drive in (ANPR, but nowdays could be 'live' and on your GPS).
Mobile units to do the same for people that get caught out for some reason (on the same lines as current roadside breakdown services) or at a straight 'paid for / call out' service.
Look how all the Just Eat / Deliveroo / Uber Eats / Home delivery (and Uber itself) companies have expanded / reacted to the pandemic.
And us RC electric car / boat / plane / helecopter and full size vehicle racers have been changing battery packs between runs / races for years ... ;-)
Cheers, T i m
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Mark Carver
I can remember them being issued, but were they actually ever used in anger (in 73/74 ?)
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charles
I never used mine.
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charles
cf. Fascinating Aida - Cheap Flights
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T i m
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There could be , or might be 'a few', like the connectors for phones 'now' are typically uUSB, USBC or whatever solution Apple comes out with next. ;-)
So given many car brands are now owned by one parent company, or co-developed with others, there is no reason why all those models couldn't have the same pack? It may end up like VHS (Ford), Beta (GM) and Laserdisk (Apple) with one winning in the end. ;-)
And say they did a 'L/M/S' range of packs, the S would be the size supplied with an urban runaround and the M might be fitted to the same size / weight as the runaround but 'sports' models.
Cheers, T i m
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T i m
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I thought those vehicle batteries that included temperature management were done with liquid (heating and cooling), not air?
Cheers, T i m
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GB
I understand there are lots of pet theories that it's all to do with the sun, etc. However, the downside with those theories being wrong is horrendous.
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T i m
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And the key word there being 'normally', 'normal' as_considered_ with_our_current_tools / usage.
When you could only travel the distance within the range of a std horse and coach, they built 'Coach houses' that distance apart along any main / regularly traveled (where the trade would justify it), expanding out from the centres until they met in the middle (like how they often build bridges).
Then the same thing would have happened with petrol stations as the IC powered vehicles become more common but that didn't happen with EV's around the same time because it wasn't as 'easy' to distribute electricity (with wires) as it was liquid fuel (tankers) even then.
Once the supply and infrastructure is in place it's much easier to distribute such energy over wires than it is tankers. You can do it with pipes but I think the cost / risk (with petrol, compared with water or gas) wouldn't be viable, especially retrospectively throughout a density populated country like ours (and for direct usage by Joe Public).
Cheers, T i m
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Tim+
If any company could make that system work, you?d think it would be Tesla. Note the date on that video though, 2013. They dropped the idea as unworkable in practice.
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T i m
I think when it get's to that level of uptake, *every* parking space will have a charging point and the load based on the worst case typical percentage of EV's to IC that would be parked there.
They would do that because that would encourage EV drivers to park there and so use the other facilities (like restaurants and all the shopping / entertainment that would then also be added).
Just in the same way there is usually a food place and newsagent at / near a railway station.
Cheers, T i m
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Scion
If you can't get there, you don't go. Just like today if relatives lived in NZ for example.
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