On Tue, 14 May 2013 23:47:33 +0100, Jane Frith wrote:
So do you. The problem may well be the warm, moist air rising into that
area from the machine after a wash, exacerbated by the detergent, etc.
Have you seen the mould anywhere else in your water supply? You haven't
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Just out of interest Jane - is there a filter in the water intake to
the machine? My washer/dryer has, but it's not very likely to trap
much at a sort of biological level, which is probably/possibly your
If you complain to the water company about your "occasionally
discoloured" (!) water they should come and take samples from the
first tap in the house (probably the kitchen cold tap) and report back
on any findings.
Many (some?!) water companies openly publish detailed info on their
water. In some cases you can enter your postcode online and get a fair
amount of detail about the water that feeds your pipes...
On Tuesday 14 May 2013 23:47 Jane Frith wrote in uk.d-i-y:
How can you be so sure that it's not caused by softener/detergent spash-
There are some quite fine sprays insideside the drawer and I fine a certain
amount of washing agent residue up around the nozzels - potentially enough
to grow cultures on, though I've not had that particular problem.
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You are right - it was one of the first comments made by Andrew Gabriel and I
agree it is the most likely problem. It is a possibility - my partner is going
to see if they can take the fixed unit above the conditioner area apart to see
if that is was happened.
Perhaps you would care to engage brain. The water is in the machine,
it is going through a grill onto the fabric conditioner (which, if you
read the label, you would realise contains detergent) immediately
below it. The mixture of conditioner and water splashes about inside
and onto the conditioner grill where it is kept nice and warm and
moist by the water elsewhere in the machine. Not all is rinsed
through by the incoming water and mould grows on the residue which
remains damp for days after the machine is finished. Each time you
use the machine and conditioner you splash a bit more nutrient on the
mould which increases in mass, If you use concentrated conditioner
the problem is often worse which is why most washing machine
instructions tell you to dilute conditioner before adding it to the
dispenser and also to regularly run a max temp wash.
Your conclusion is that the water supply is the problem despite such
black slime not apparently occurring elsewhere in the house and it
being a common problem in washing machines (try "black mould in
washing machine" in Google)? I agree, that innovative leap of logic
did escape me.
Most will have worked out that it only occurs where there are both
water and conditioner together inside the machine.
Most don't operate on "my mind is made up, please do not confuse me
One thing you can be sure of is that Peter read and understood what you
wrote. He is correct.
Get your machine cleaned by someone who can reach the parts you can't.
And get that person to recommend how you can keep it clean in future.
Then pay them.
Many thanks to the following, much appreciated, good comments and advice:
The person who recommended the group warned me about the "know-alls and
fuckwits club" No thanks to those whatsoever: you give the group as a whole a
"Man at B&Q"
The kind of customer who's called a stupid bitch when the door shuts or
the phone is put down. The type who calls a couple of times to confirm
what she was told the first time. One who spots a microscopic grease
mark on the item and demands a discount for the stress it's caused.
Then wonders why she can't get the same company to return when she has
another problem !
I'm not even sure what poor Bob is meant to have done as his sole
contribution was both accurate and quite innocuous. I suspect this
was someone who didn't want answers to a problem but merely to have
their rather silly preconceptions confirmed.
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