I have a problem with my washing machine not working 100% correctly on the
rinse cycle with concentrated conditioner.
I have determined that the problem is the low flow of water through the
conditioner tray during the rinse cycle.
The low flow is caused by blockage of approx 2mm size holes (twenty in number)
in to the conditioner tray.
I have cleaned them out as well as I could -- and removed quite a bit of black
"gunge" which was soluble when rubbed between fingers in water. It appears to
be mould/bacterial growth of some sort. The only thing flowing through the
pipe/machine to that point is mains cold water.
I have asked the legal question in uk.legal.moderated : if I draw the problem
to the Public Water supply company - do they have a legal obligation to check
the water supply quality and check the "gunge" to ascertain what it is.
The d-i-y questions: any ideas what the gunge will be and what could I wash the
pipes equipment tray with in order to dissolve/remove it?
Fabric conditioner goes mouldy like this. It often gets splashed back
into the water jets.
Also, the cheaper and eco washing detergents can leave a residue which
will go moldy. Doesn't seem to happen with the better quality ones.
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On Tuesday 14 May 2013 18:51 Jane Frith wrote in uk.d-i-y:
Your gunge is probably growing in the machine - have you seen it anywhere
else that is fed by mains water?
As for the tray - take it out (most unclip) and wash it in host soapy water
with some bleach.
However, if you are concerned, a phone call to your water supplier might
yeild something. Ask if you can have a water quality check done. I would
imaging they will oblige (they have to check various points of the system so
they must have a lab for it).
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If I read the OP's post correctly, the gunge is in the "ceiling" of
the slot that the drawer fits in. I discovered (the deadly) black
mould in our previous washer-dryer & never quite managed to eradicate
it, so I'm making some effort to prevent it in the new one (leaving
the drawer out for a while in the morning if I'm not in the kitchen;
wiping the slot out with surface wipes; spraying alcohol in it &
I can't see them having any obligation beyond checking that the service
pipe is delivering water of adequate quality. The the water, when fed to
a washing machine and mixed with some indeterminate substance (by splash
if not directly) then happens to support the growth of mould will be of
no interest to them.
Black mould is the curse of washing machines. The only decent answer I
know is to clean it sufficiently frequently that any significant
build-up is avoided. And use a hot wash from time to time.
I hate posting a link to this newspaper, but...
Take due care as you read not to rush out and spend money on lots of
I do to the extent that it's practical in the kitchen. (If I had a
utility room, I'd leave them open most of the time.) But the main
problem IME (at least on the previous machine; as I said, I'm trying
preventive measures on the new one) is mould growth in the top of the
cavity that the drawer fits into.
Some people have mentioned running a hot wash regularly to keep the
machine clean. I use the 90° cycle once or maybe twice a month, but I
don't see how that can help keep the drawer & slot clean, since it's a
cold-fill-only machine: only the drum & output parts get hot.
On Wed, 15 May 2013 20:50:21 +0100, Adam Funk wrote:
But there is an open path from the drum up into the drawer area. A
properly thought through and designed machine would make sure that the
drawer area got reasonably hot, 70 C plus. But a) I doubt that much
thought goes into that area of a machines design and b) the elvensafty
safety lot wouldn't allow it incase some one opened the drawer and got a
scald from it or the hot steam...
They'd also get support calls like "there's steam seeping out of the
drawer, what's wrong?!"
My manual says to use 90° once a month (I think). I do that anyway,
because there are a few things I wash that hot, but I doubt most
people use that programme much. I would like to have a proper cold
wash, though; clothes that don't need hot water last longer if washed
Perhaps you would care to read what I said again:
"The only thing flowing through the machine to that point is mains cold water"
Most will have worked it out that the problem is before there has been any
mixing with detergent or conditioner.
Adam Funk and others understood plain English: why can't you?
I will ignore the rest of the shit you have posted as you obviously have
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