If I replace ( or indeed add) a radiator does it have to be done by a corgi engineer or can I do it myself (and have no hassles when I come to sell the house)? . Obviously I will need to drain down the system so does this have a bearing on the answer?
No, you can do this yourself. Corgi is only for gas appliances, gas fire, boiler etc
Can I suggest that you investigate buying a pipe-freezing kit? Screwfix sells them for
Or buy a bung kit and bung the F&E pipes (if you have them). Then you have no danger of trying to get the job done before the pipes melt and you get wet.
The Corgi requirement (if indeed there is one - because that is a moot point in itself) only applies to gas connections. Assuming your radiator is not heated *directly* by gas, but rather by water heated by a gas boiler elsewhere in the circuit, there's no reason whatsoever why you can't DIY it.
its a requirement that only corgi engineers connect gas and water to a boiler as in a recent edition of the gas installer (corgi mag)
Well that makes them to be The Sun of the gas world then!
nobby wrote in
Leaving aside the Corgi/competent person argument, and without seeing the article in the Corgi mag, there's an ambiguity there with "connect gas and water to a boiler".
Is it suggesting that only a Corgi fitter can attach a water carrying pipe directly to a gas boiler or is it suggesting that only a Corgi fitter can attach any water carrying element of a CH system that has a gas boiler as part of the system?
[Y'know, that seemed so clear in my mind when I started to type it - I think it makes sense but don't try too hard.]
And we all believe what CORGI says. They have lied so often in the past why start believing them now?
In message , nobby writes
Is it f*ck
and can you not refer to them as engineers, they are not allowed to ENGINEER anything, they are fitters, they fit and install
You can do whatever you want to your own boiler as long as you are "competent" - which cuts out a significant proportion of CORGI fitters
CORGI are a self interest company, they are very good at distorting the facts (such as conveniently pretending that you have to be registered to work on a gas appliance FOR FINANCIAL GAIN)
No. Moreover Corgis are not engineers, most are not technicians either, but simply "monkey see monkey do" gas fitters.
"You can do whatever you want to your own boiler as long as you are "competent" - which cuts out a significant proportion of CORGI fitters"
but to be in corgi you must be competent and qualified as demanded by the HSE so EVERY corgi engineer is competent.
You are correct you can do what ever you want to your own boiler as long as you have the current qualifications in place which deems you competent to the HSE which probably makes 99.9% of DIYers carrying out gas work illegal.
as you've probably realised by now your talking bollocks!
That would be the one who told me my boiler had to be replaced as it was burning away the floor? Didn't have enough ventilation? He was neither competent or honest.
You certainly are.
In message , "@@" writes
I presume that you are a clueless top posting CORGI
Are they f*ck
You seem to fail to understand that CORGI is only concerned with safety
funny that ...
I actually attended the HSE's consultation on gas safety and their slant on it seems to differ substantially to yours
I'll rephrase - a substantial number of fitters I come across really are not COMPETENT to work on gas appliances
They are prolly as clueless about the regs as you are as well
Let's get this straight
I (not CORGI registered) spend a not inconsiderable amount of time diagnosing faults for fitters that are so obvious that I wonder how they have muddled through for so long
e.g. last week (ex british gas 15 years + experience)
"I know it must be the pcb or the gas valve"
now this guy swapped the pcb rather than simply putting a meter on to see if there were volts to the gas valve or not. This is INCOMPETENCE and it's CORGI mate
now f*ck off
In message , "@@" writes
Sorry, but we have little time for self proclaimed "CORGI gods" round here
Everyone who has a full UK driving licences is deemed to be a competent and qualified driver. One only has to venture onto the roads to see that does not hold true. Likewise any certification only means the person managed to muddle through at time of testing and says nothing of their competence to carry out the task at any other time.
Mel.
Yeah, right...
Last CORGI installed boiler I saw:
Bloke turned up drunk got the boiler mounted on the wall 5 degrees off vertical Had more solder on the outside of the pipes and kitchen floor than on the joints Connected the condensate drain to a copper pipe using some insulating tape, fed it through an outside wall and left it dripping on a concrete drive Said the existing prog stat was "incompatible with the boiler" and did not connect it up. Left five gas leaks for his mate to come back and find the following day.
The law makes no mention of any required "qualifications".
If you thought that this was ambiguos and misleading, look at some of the wording on their web site. Phrases such as "likely to be illegal" for example. They can't actually *say* illegal because the relevant Acts don't support the statement.
That is quite a comical statement after seeing some of the work done by some Corgi 'engineers' shown at times on this group. It was only last month that pictures were posted here of an upturned bucket used as a gas fire flue, fitted by a 'competent' CORGI registered fitter.
I'm currently working on a house where the boiler fitter has removed the stop c*ck inside the house. He said it was too stiff to turn, so removed it, fitted a new section of pipe in place of the stop c*ck, and said to turn the water off out in the street if need be. Alan.
Ah but you are confusing "competence" (as in what you've got) and "Competence" which is what CORGI registered people have. The government set up the scheme so they could define "Competence" as they (and the courts) like things easily defined (it's cheaper that way). It's nothing to do with whether they are any good at the work. Your undoubted competence doesn't count (unless you have documentary evidence to prove it) however great it is. Those CORGIs who are incompetent don't count either (other than that CORGI might prefer not to have CORGI isnpired accidents). CORGI aren't concerned with safety. The governent were concerned about being seen to do nothing about safety - now they can say they are. The law may be an ass, and it's supporters deserving of being told to go forth and multiply but that doesn't stop it being the law!
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