One could simply answer that there is no paperwork and that none is required. It isn't.
Then the buyer can choose. If they want the house they can choose to ignore the issue (because it is a non issue) and then check that their solicitor really knows what she's doing (if she got this wrong how much more is wrong?)
If it's a price issue and a negotiation then that will have to be about something else.
I'm about to find this out, since I replaced mine in 2004 and am about to sell. I am (hopefully) going to pre-empt problems by getting it professionally serviced and get a Landlord's certificate at the same time. For the electrics, I will get a periodic inspection report. If I have an awkward buyer ['s solicitor] they may insist on a Building Regs regularisation approval which will cost me £250 or so for nothing more than eyeballing the other paperwork.
Yes, a Conservative council, for anyone who expects things to change in
2010
No point now... If you sell the place and it proves to be a problem, you can get a (worthless*) insurance to cover retrospective building regs problems.
Andy, are we talking about the boiler replacement or my original question about the radiator? If you are talking about the boiler replacement, where are you getting this idea that no paperwork is required from? Can you refer me to a legally binding document that states this, something that I could refer the clueless solicitor to when they (or the buyer) insist on BCO completion certificates and CORGI paperwork?
When I sold my house, in which the boiler had been replaced a few years earlier, the buyers (via their solicitors) asked for paperwork from recent servicing of the boiler.
I told them, not untruthfully, that I had never had my boiler serviced and therefore I had no servicing paperwork to give them. They asked again and I told them the same thing. They then asked whether it worked OK, and I said to the best of my knowledge yes (which it did).
That was that. I was prepared, if pushed, to get it serviced and pay for it, but I didn't think it was worth servicing it on the off chance.
Specifically the radiator not boiler replacement.
Any fitter or whatever you want to call them who can't test a simple component like a pressure switch wants shooting IMHO.
But come on mate, describing testing of a pressure switch as "back up" is a bit lame a six year old could do it, lets face it.
Ron.
I was going to call it 'daylight robbery', but that was the "Window Tax" of
1696. Oh well, that's progress for you. ;-)Don.
The window tax is a scam run by FENSA these days ;-)
OK. I've no intention of selling - I wouldn't have replaced the boiler if I had.
Great. I put in a larger window at the same time. Wonder what I've not done that I should have with this. ;-)
In message , ronny writes
The backup is me explaining to the fitter how to do it over the phone
Nothing to worry about then...
Same thing... building regs Part something or other (I lose track of the alphabet soup of pointless regulation that has flowed forth in recent years). You need to be a member of FENSA or go the building notice route to replace a window. (although you can repair one with impunity however)
(stats suggest that to all intents and purposes no one bothers taking any notice of this one).
IIRC the assessments have alot about recognising load of obsolete gas controls but very little on modern stuff. The other side of assessment is the certified work record. However this is eroded becasue a) The on the job training can be very patchy. b) The assessment centres are competeing with each other to see who can offer entry on the basis of the smallest work record.
Presumably because he hadn't half a clue about fault-finding, which isn't part of either the training or prerequisites for ACS. However he should have been competent at testing that the boiler was effectively sealed and not leaking POCs into the room after he'd done the fan :-|
Prolly still hogging the middle lane. Saw on the gogglebox an age ago about someplace in India where the traffic makes Keystone Cops look like a sedate country spin, but the learner drivers' test course is a completely empty stretch of tarmac about 100 yards long with a slight wiggle partway along. This country's driving test is like that in that learners get a full licence without once having driven on a motorway.
And (to get rather circuitously back to the point (whatever it was :-))) you can get a full ACS and CORGI registration without having a clue about fault-finding problems unless they're directly related to combustion safety.
Oh dear.
How did you check that the pipework was properly sized for your combi, and check the working gas pressure at the boiler?
How did you verify the integrity of your gas pipework?
What sort of soldering flux did you use on it and how did you apply it? And what did you do to each joint after you'd soldered it?
What did you do with the pipe where it passed through any solid walls?
How did you make non-soldered joints?
What cleanser did you use to flush the system with? And what inhibitor did you put it in after it was properly flushed?
What system controls did you end up with? How many TRVs did you have to add to radiators to bring it up to current Building Regs energy efficiency standards?
Where do you live? Just so I can keep clear ...
There is no on the job training for "current operatives", Obsolete controls are that, obsolete, and there is no work based work record, so where did you hear that??
Oi - that was me 20 years ago
We all have to start somewhere
UK-diy exists for those who want to DIY and need a bit of guidance
Not for fuckwits who are too stupid to remove a sticker from their car's rear window or (I haven't even looked at the thread) people who can't even sort out what trousers to wear to DIY
ISTR a lot of us have come a long way over the years, lets not forget where we started
... rant over
p.s. how scary
my 25 year endowment mortgage matures next year
where did the time go ?
Ah now you sound like one of those there experts with a certificate, was you one of the ones that gave me s quote and promised my death if I didn't accept it John ?
The strange thing is that you seem be multiplying and appearing in every walk of life.....I have just rebuilt a suzuki 1400gsxi engine for my neighbour and strangeley enough you were mentioned in the factory manual that I read for the settings, didn't actually tell me that I would die (although that is mentioned in the braking section) but it did infer that I wouldn't be able to strip & rebuild the engine and so should take it to a specialist with a certificate and pay him/her £2000 + to do what I did in 2 hours with £200 worth of psrts bought at trade, I do believe that people paying for nothing more than certificate ownership.
You see here an aura of total arrogance born of ( I presume) certificate ownership. You have never met me John and you have absolutely no idea of my capabilities, what you base your derogitory comments on is the fact that YOU and a few others have a certificate stating that you are skilled in a particular proffession and you have bought a certificate to prove it. I believe it is down to you and others with your attitude that has set a divide between i.e. Gas Fitters and corgi reg Gas Fitters the latter is always mentioned with a strange smile or a roll of the eyes along with certified electricians and the like.
It really is simple John, if I need a certificate to state that a certain appliance is fitted properly etc....I can pick up the phone and get one....... for a tenner that is what your certification is worth to the normal everyday home-owner like me........a tenner, this is also how it used to work when I was a teenager and needed an MOT on my car, I knew it was safe but didn't have a peice of paper to prove it. I'm not saying that this certified stupidity isn't the law..... I know it is,...... is it really needed ? only in the eyes of the eu and our penny greedy government ( oh and the certificated ones) because they make money from it not because they are bothered someone may be hurt.
You can have a lot of fum with this one John but by the time you read it I will be on a plane for a short break in Georgia where you don't need such certificates and people do just fine...have fun
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