It almost makes you not want to be involved if that were possible.
The diligent and experienced person effectively has the same status as the 17 year old who can only just about manage to solder.
Who needs notifying if I replace my boiler? - British Gas :-)
Peter
Or not, as in our case when the CORGI muppet let his pet puppy install our CH pipework.
We didn't ask for an integral shower in the hallway, but we got one.
Don.
yes.
or just no one takes any notice? That was effectively what was happeneing anyway.
I suspect that there are just too many of them to get a "closed guild" going.
Having recently replaced my boiler, who do I inform? And what's the reaction going to be since I DIYed it?
The interesting thing with the Viessmann is that apart from the usual filling and venting proceeder, the only other check needed is that the gas pressure is within limits - all the other settings are automatic. They obviously have heard about CORGI 'standards'.
your LA BCO, but since you've already done it prolly best to keep schtum about it ... retrospective wotsits and all that
What, because of the name? I could get pedantic about the fact that I do repairs, maintenance and inspection as well as installing but life's too short :-)
A plumbing qualification is a prerequisite for the gas training (which of course absolutely guarantees that the person will have appropriate plumbing skills ... just as a driving licence guarantees that a person is a competent driver [sigh]) but ability to solder and other basic plumbing skills aren't part of the gas assessment.
Actually the driving analogy (s/solder/drive/ in what you said) is interesting, but with the gas thing you get assessed on your work every year or two and have to re-do the whole assessment every 5 years. That's a model I'd like to see on the roads: discuss [ducks :-)]
So how did the CORGI who was fitting a fan and PCB I supplied to his customer need me to explain to him how to test an air pressure switch
today that is
So, the customer had paid for a pcb and fan and, because of his misdiagnosis, they weren't the fault
a) lucky they bought from me because of i) price ii) backup
b) I dread to think what his driving's like if I have to follow your analogy
Or just drain-down anyway and get rid of some/most/all of the black crap. That way there's no fear of the whole system dumping everywhere.
Drain-down, re-fill, pump, drain-down re-fill, pump etc .... until the water drains down clean. Then re-fill and add additive.
Far better option in my mind.
Pete
It in theory requires a building notice because of the Part L requirements for energy efficiency - hence verification of the effiency of the boiler, plus checking that the controls are to modern standards with TRVs and boiler interlock etc.
That seems quite common. I noted on the Ideal boiler I fitted at the last place, there were instructions in effect saying everything is preset, please don't fiddle!
I wish someone could explain to me why replacing a boiler in the same place as the old one should need a BCO to be informed? Does moving the flue all of 2 ft need planning permission?
Should I apply for this retrospectively? I'm pretty certain it exceeds current requirements - weather compensated etc.
My Keston said something along those lines. It was however miles out, as I think was everyone else's here.
This is so that they can check that you have followed the Part L requirements.
For the BCO, it is more exciting than his normal job of putting the little holes in toothbrushes.
After getting 3 quotes for what seemed ( to me ) to be absolute rip-off prices and being told that "if you don't use a corgi reg fitter you will die.... its that simple mate " I then went ahead and fitted my own combi boiler. I had never even plumbed a tap before in my life nor changed a tap washer, none of those technical things, what I do have is common sense. The best quote I had was £500 labour and was told it would take 2 days due to it not being a the same make of boiler out as in. I did it myself in 6 hours without any experience and having to go buy a couple tools and standard tea breaks..... oh and it cost me £25.00. That was 18 months ago and I'm still here to tell the tail. I have since remodelled the bathroom including fitting and extractor fan (which I wired myself) I have rewired my garage/workshop totally I have replaced all the windows in my house. I have also been told that if I rewire my house "you will die....its that simple mate" Guess what my next job is........
These so-called experts may have a license to print money but it won't be my money
It's getting to the point where people will have to notify BCO if they want to wipe their backsides!
Last year we had a gas fire replaced & a flue liner installed. Guess what, BCO had to be notified and I was issued with a pretty little certificate. FFS why should the BCO be involved?
Don.
So that they can increase their workload, hire more of them and reduce unemployment while increasing taxation.
did anybody hear the Radio 4 item about the Purbeck bedroom tax yesterday?
Dave, it's your choice. When you come to sell the house there is a standard question on the buyers form, from their solicitor, which asks if the central heating has been altered from a certain date. If you say yes (which you would have to in your case), then there is a follow up which says please supply BCO completion certificates (electrical and gas) and CORGI certification. If you don't have that then the buyer can either use it as a reason to knock you down on price or even pull out of the deal altogether if it worries them that much. The BCO retrospective fee if 20% on top of the normal fee. From the buyer's point of view, the fact that there is no 'legal' paperwork for the installation can invalidate any insurance claim they might make in the future and of course they would have the same problem when it comes time for them to sell.
In my (admittedly limited experience of two recent cases), the seller's solicitor doesn't allow you to answer any of these questions, even where apparently favourable to you.
Sure, the buyer's solicitor can't legally force you to answer the questions but, what would you as the buyer think if you outright refused to answer those sticky questions? You'd immediately assume (correctly) that there's no paperwork or that you're hiding something or both. Either way, answering honestly that you have no paperwork or alternatively just refusing to answer, you're in the same boat. The buyer tries to knock you down on price or walks away.
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