CCTV advice please.

Mar 09, 2020 Last reply: 6 years ago 32 Replies

Where does he say he can't? What he does state however is that "It will not be possible to run a network cable anywhere" and logic dictates, if he can't do that he won't be *running* power cables (any distance) either but picking the power up locally. That could even be batteries and solar for all we know.

For 'no good reason' that you are aware of. However, he did actually state "It will not be possible to run a network cable anywhere and so by any form of logical reasoning, he wouldn't be able to run power (any distance) either.

That's your opinion but completely ignoring the information presented.

You have made an assumption based on illogic.

Grow up.

Yes, but I'm guessing you just had another bad day. The phraseology of that particular sentence reflected your bullish attitude of all the other points.

Then that's fine as that will do what he wants, assuming he actually wants a dedicated recorder. What he actually asked for was: "facility to record to a router usb disc or a pc HDD" and he may well have requested that for very good reason.

OOI, if he asks such a question using those constraints, do you think he's completely tech illiterate (and think WiFi cams are powered by pixies) where your initial replies would be any answer to his questions?

Your reply was like one of the 'Use Linux' ones to a Windows question.

Whilst it can have merits in some cases, in this case the OP stated specifically he didn't want Linux.

Don't get me wrong here, I agree that a cabled system with a dedicated box would be the best solution, but it doesn't seem to be even a possible solution in this case.

Cheers, T i m

How will the cameras be powered? Brian

If he lived in the Sahara he may cope with solar charged units for a while till the sand overwhelmed cells. grin. Brian

I mean cameras out of tamper way running on batteries with no way to charge them is a job for life for a man with a ladder. Brian

foresight would have been needed, I installed the cable 40 years ago!

It's dreadful isn't it, Charles? I spent twenty years vaguely wondering how the outdoor floodlamp that I fitted ten years before operated, because it never came on. The other day whilst searching for something else in the loft I found a scribbled circuit diagram. It turned out that I'd wired the lamp to a switch that I'd forgotten existed because it had been behind a shelf unit for the twenty years. I must have intened to move the switch but never did.

Also, my oldest CCTV camera failed last year. It had worked 24/7 since approx 1980. Unlike all the other cameras it was mains powered and I had to physically follow the cable to find out where to disconnect it.

Bill

What's the purpose of the camera?

To deter thieves in which case it may need to be very obvious that its there but maybe not obvious which way the lens is pointing - perhaps a dome type camera enclosure.

If it's to also identify people after the event you need a camera with enough resolution for identification coupled with a suitable lens with a sensible field of view.

Don't forget that many public CCTV systems claim to have a man in the loop viewing the pictures to identify crime/problems - although recent revelations suggest that even on smart motorways no-one is viewing the output to shut down lanes when someone breaks down and blocks them.

I will be able to get power from the loft to the cameras mounted on the eaves but will not be able to run cable to either the router or the pc.

Regards

You could have put in a telephone cable 40 years ago.

That'll usually run megabit+ network with line drivers.

Owain

I do still have a reasonable amount of GPO 4 core. I suspect after being buried for 40 years it might not still be working.

It's surprising how cable deteriorates in damp conditions. I can only think that the plastic outer sheath is not perfectly waterproof.

Bill

Things can be weird, I remmebr opening a draw from one ofm those plastic storage draw units that are common I kept rubber gromments in it and they had 'welded' themselves to the plastic draw like hot caramel on chocolate (dam master chef). I;ts only been about 10 years .

But you also have temperture vairations through the years and everything ages.

I think Openreach use a paraffin gel (Vaseline-like) filled cable to protecte the pairs inside from water. This will be very inert.

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