Any other pensioners here?

The extra bedrooms are used by their children and grandchildren when they come to stay.

So what about Schools, Adult Social Care, Childrens Social Care... .. as for blocking planning I understand there is a well defined process...

4) Council rejects again as its still over development....

.. repeat above steps until either :-

a) Council buckles under. b) Builder thinks its not over development and appeals. c) Builder declares bankruptcy. d) Greta discovers nest of rare newts. c) Some one thinks the can make more money building a non-christian community and religious centre..

Not when "C" occurs the original plans get re-submitted and passed...

Dave

Unless they take the necessary steps, those who are homeowners risk having to sell their homes to pay for that social care. It's not by any means a freebie for everyone.

And their *live in* carers when needed.

I aslways assumed that Rachel Thieves got Diane Abbott to do the sums for her.

Rachel the Chess Champion probably has a vacancy for him... !

To say nowt of Diane Abbott.

Do "young people who can't find a place to live" expect to be the householder of a "large house with loads of spare bedrooms" (I assume you mean two spare bedrooms)?

Is the council tax a charge for services (whether provided or unprovided), or is it the manifestation of an act of spite against people who have more money than... well... then you?

But only to the extent that it is any of anyone else's business!

Why should they give up their home, with all its memories; the neighbours who they know and who all help each other out; the space for hobbies in retirement, that they did not have the time for when working, nor the space when their children were still there; their lovingly tended garden, developed over decades; and the space to have their children and their spouses and children stay when they can get to visit

- possibly from afar or even abroad?

What extra council services do they use over that of a person living in a flat? In all likelihood they consume fewer services than those who have never bought a house, nor invested in their own future.

Which is why Social Care should be removed from Council Tax and funded, as per need, from Central Government taxes/NHS funds.

Indeed, and they can do what they want with their money and their property but the OP was asking for a discount for pensioners as if it was their misfortune to own big houses and deserved some sympathy.

TW

I have a big 'empty nest'. If I don't want it I sell it. I don't expect the government to subsidise me. Before winter fuel payments came along I managed. Then the 'nice' government of the day gave me some money every winter, without me asking for it. I didn't need it, but it seemed rude not to take it. Then the 'nasty' government stopped giving me it. Where's my money they all cried. My granny gave me pocket money until I was all grown up. I could have refused it, but she would have been offended. If one day she had not given me the money, I certainly would NOT have cried "Where's my money, gran!" Sort of parable init?

No.

The WFA became, and so was, a de facto part of the state pension (worth another £3.84 or £5.76 a week according to age). It was something that anyone would have included when stating what their annual income was.

Abolishing it amounted to a reduction in pensioner income. Sugar that how you will, it was a reduction in income. And all for being part of a demographic that didn't wholeheartedly support Labuor, the Anti-Pensioner Party.

And who knows how many other cuts in pensioner income this shower were planning?

Spite is their middle name.

Yes but. Do you agree that the state pension and pensioner benefits could be open to means testing? Especially if it can be done in a simple way - say, those with a declared income >100k or savings >1m lose entitlement to pension-related benefits?

Ah. More steal from the rich and give to the public sector eh? I think you belong in a communist country

I think many on incomes of that size have draw-down pension funds so can adjust their income to keep it below £100k. They probably do that anyway to avoid the high tax rates on high income.

Dave

Dave

As long as contributions are adjusted. I paid other people's pensions for

It is taxable, you know?

We were taught at school that socialism doesn't work, this is a good example of why.