Our renter want to install apartmetn washer (110v) and dryer, how much
should we raise the rent by?
We have renters in the upstairs of our rental house, that don't have
and dryer access, and is not included in the lease agreement. They have
asked if they would be allowed to install a washer and dryer upstairs. We
pay the utilities right now for the renters, so this would be an added
expense. How much would it be fair to raise the rent to compensate for
the extra hydro and water (4 adults)? (will make an amendment to lease
agreement) Any ideas $10, $20 or $40? I don't really know as of yet
it cost me average utilities per month. Previously only had one adult
p.s. they buy the appliences. They will attach the washer to the kitchen
tap (washer on wheels). And dryer will vent through the window. I have a
feeling the portable type use more lectricity.
In most countries, the government can tell you how
much power any (new) appliance uses (sometimes
also shown on the unit's label.) In the USA
I do not know whether federal or state consumer
offices provide this information.
Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada)
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:59:19 -0700, "Charlie Spitzer"
In the US you should find a YELLOW tag on the appliances in the store
listing the electric/gas consumption and an estimated annual cost of
operation - the government requires the tag but doesn't supply the
information that the manufacturer has to put on it.
now think about this. the yellow tag states an average consumption. what is
average, and will the tenants follow this average? perhaps, or perhaps not.
consumption depends upon frequency. how the OP determines how much to charge
would depend upon the frequency of usage. if i was renting and the owner was
paying for the water and electric bills and not charging directly, i'd run
the sucker every day for the first yearly lease.
Decide first, eletric dryer or gas dryer.
Also washer has new kind which uses lot less water, the horizontal
drum type(euro style).
I could never be a land lord because I am softee. Just ask them how much
they spend at laundromat a month and charge more or less that amount.
Charlie Spitzer wrote:
That is not a hard and fast rule. Many rentals include utilities,
just like some DO NOT include any utilities - i.e. parking, water,
gas, electric, waste removal (garbage), cable TV and internet service.
There is an apartment complex near the one my son lives in that
provides all of the above for the monthly rental charge!
What it comes down to are two things:
1) Do you want to keep the tenant?
2) How much you can get away with before the tenant decides to move out.
The easy way is to charge the tenant the increase between the bills for last
year and the bills for this year. (You make "adjustments" based on #1 and
if they use the washer and dryer too much it will cost too much.. tell
them they they have to get a key operated one and that you will keep the
key and if they want to use it that you will turn the key on if they
come up with some money... or you could get them a seperate meter and
let them pay for their own electricity.... the days of landlords paying
for the utilities if about over.. most large apt. buildings went to the
tennent paying for the electric/gas/water with the high cost of the
utilities.... the guy who goes off and lets the water run or the a/c on
will soon start to learn to conserve when he has to pay for it
its a loosing proposition to pay the tennents utilities.............
4 adults and a 110v dryer? It will be running a LOT. We have one of these
dryers at our vacation home and it is very slow to dry a load. And the
tumbler is so small that a load usually consists of 2 or 3 towels, or 2 or 3
pairs of jeans and takes approximately an hour to dry these very small
loads. Imagine 4 adults and all their clothes, towels and sheets. I think
it's a bad deal for the landlord _and_ the tenant.
According to PG&E (
http://www.pge.com/003_save_energy/003b_bus/003b1d2a_cal /) for a Gas
heated water: , cold / cold is .05 a load, warm / cold is .12 a load,
and hot / warm is .30 a load. For electric, it's .05 , .30, .82.
Gas dryer is .13 a load, electric is .40 a load.
So let's say worse case, they have a electric dryer and electric water
heater, and do 30 loads a month, all on hot / warm (1 a day): $36.60.
Let's say best case, gas heater, gas dryer, cold/cold, 30 loads a
To e-mail me, remove theobvious from my e-mail address.
Under no circumstances would I allow upstairs tenants to have a clothes
washer in their apartment. You are looking for BIG trouble if you let them
go ahead with this plan. The added cost of Utilities will be the least of
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