Wind turbines used to absorb a power surplus?

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What a load of crock. "Don't feed them because you need to keep feeding them". But you will.

Nothing should be culled. We don't have more rights than them.

Samoans always ndid blimp out even when they were eating each other.

And deregulation is preceded by intense lobbying by whatever industry is being regulated with the theme of "We won't do all those stupid things that led to the last blowup and got us regulated.", stated with their fingers crossed. The mean time to disaster seems to be decreasing.

I'm not a fan of government regulation and would like to see government drowned in a tea cup. Philosophically that makes me an anarchist. Then reality kicks in. For the most part individuals and corporations make very bad choices.

When I was in a rehab facility attached to a nursing home I was asked if I had any problem with dogs since they had one that visited periodically. I never met the dog; it may have been more for the long term residents.

I had a cat living with me last year who would follow me to the mailbox. He'd make side trips to investigate things of interest but would catch up eventually.

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People do walk cats. I looked out one day and one of the neighborhood kids was taking her ferret for a walk. I thought that was a little over the top.

What does the world have to do with a discussion of crop choices in the US? I agree agriculture takes place worldwide.

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Grain is a fungible asset and anticipating Ukrainian grain will be piped directly to starving third world countries is a bit naive. afaik, Montana doesn't export wheat to Poland although international markets affect the prices.

DW's makeover is interesting. They downplay it is Deutsche Welle, a state owned broadcaster. Perhaps they are sensitive to the rumors Germany is running Europe after all.

"Leguminous green manures such as clover and vetch contain nitrogen-fixing symbiotic bacteria in root nodules that fix atmospheric nitrogen in a form that plants can use. This performs the vital function of fertilization."

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And what, exactly is your point?

Crop rotation to fix nitrogen (usually using alfalfa) has been widely practiced for a hundred years.

Note, however, that the crops (alfalfa and clover) are not directly used to feed humans, and thus aren't as profitable for the modern industrial farms (the family farm is gone) as crops such as corn (animal feeds, corn starch, corn sugers and alcohol). A modern farm that tried using crop rotation instead of anhydrous would quickly be bankrupt.

That was a comment on my claim that bacteria is not needed for fixing nitrogen with green manure crops.

But other green manure crops do not have that, most obviously with alfalfa. We actually used cannabis as a green manure crop at one time.

Its all perfectly feasible and it was done back in the 1950s

you have been fed a line of bullshit, and not only have you swallowed it, you have learnt to enjoy it.

It does, and it is used. consistent monoculture encourages competitive organisms.

Unlike you, I live in someone elses farm. I have had wheat, barley, broad beans, oil seed rape. All depending on the EU grant this year and what pests were in the fields

Rod speed is so ignorant he doesn't even know how much

It's very characteristic of stupid people.

Why limit ourselves to the US? It's an increasingly small world.

Shocked oats? Ugh. I know where there is a threshing machine parked in the trees. It's been awhile since I've heard of any working antique farm shows. I remember Dad and the neighbors getting together to shell corn that was picked in the ear. The last sheller I remember was a Minnie mounted on a truck frame.

It wasn't a working antique farm show, it was a working family farm, in the mid 1970s. A lot of work. A farmall M powered the threshing machine, and the binder was originally horse-drawn with an added drawbar (and a rider on the binder).

The unusual part of the minnie was the hand clutch.

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They had a couple of corn shellers last year but they weren't operating. Nobody plants corn around here.

The Ravalli County fair is getting to be the last of the breed at least in this part of the state. They still have tractor pulls. I do miss the horse and ox pulls at the New Hampshire state fair. They weren't entirely anachronistic. People still use teams for selective logging since they don't tear the woods up like machinery.

Now for real old school:

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Beaveslides were invented down in the Big Hole valley and you'd still see them 30 years ago. Even square bales are on the way out. Time moves on.

Once again, what does the world have to do with Montana's agricultural products? They may call this part of the state the Banana Belt but bananas are pretty rare. I will admit the banana tree in the atrium at work did produce a few one year to everyone's amazement.

What does Montana have to do with Michigan's agricultural products?

Aren't you interested in anything that's more than 20 feet from your own front door?

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